From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0CB9138010 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:45:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 902C3E0B27; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:45:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ia0-f180.google.com (mail-ia0-f180.google.com [209.85.210.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4782CE0B0C for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 09:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f180.google.com with SMTP id f27so919077iae.11 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 02:45:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nileshgr.com; s=google; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ctFJ64MNdNMeiFT6wqaidVcQ7lLXBVjB8E5NDyuJuB8=; b=Jie3o4PEA8SlzbBt3EWNX8EF3/gfJ7nEdaxYGogfTPSDdNMQRgIh3Py+dzKZtDltyV DA8EiZgOQbK3Vifemif46gl3dfhCgl0H3GlQysdSkI/hQc72dWXpJ/XHC3f4nPLD6XNa Ir9CXCr5Bd2kfBxg2NbUqmNKyQGtTUJT4qR/k= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=ctFJ64MNdNMeiFT6wqaidVcQ7lLXBVjB8E5NDyuJuB8=; b=IzFaz5Ew7A6OXJegwFwiYvu+84jVHL+GRviOb5NIdwfOpAov6yePhOl+c+trVymUlq 1FTh+Z+QTKQCCvNVpMolJtHHkIEQAOTNBD9uqIGIB+qPTW4nPMKBwOjGmk2VAdwKfUTJ frF8JaGhzagS8chVU87XNrziZAeqQ1Oy85DGBwP9Ul8Ap5VE4pjqyBUOlZYMk2+Ujptr FL6AOkmdzfaIbY02PFnN63JmSnUxgbR0bY128T1Fq7v4yCiq1zmX8Ag+/QGspUQsbL/0 B1c8GMyv0bfZRZ774IqAupasABvbC03vBCea7ZarV7tUNSvhwAxjgy/CX/MJHvrCYjqH kRGw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.136.130 with SMTP id qa2mr958988igb.1.1364636706372; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 02:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.23.113 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 02:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.23.113 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 02:45:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5155D7EB.80300@gmail.com> References: <87sj3jw63e.fsf@nyu.edu> <201303290040.41536.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> <5154ED60.40300@fuuzetsu.co.uk> <201303290159.31573.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> <20130329123247.34e9070a@fuchsia.remarqs.net> <5155D37D.1080005@gmail.com> <5155D7EB.80300@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 15:15:06 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is 'MAKEOPTS="--jobs --load-average=5"' silly? From: Nilesh Govindrajan To: Gentoo User Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0149522a2194f204d9213e67 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkbuwzo4PlBoWi65/Goa8AuDLKDsYLwy+omaRlPA6hvY03ei0MoYKMHW3Nlc9/52xmkOSNk X-Archives-Salt: 19b49fda-39a6-443d-8172-9c501e7931f0 X-Archives-Hash: 07f61ae77e7c19d73bb079f391358a42 --089e0149522a2194f204d9213e67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another interesting point about this load control thing is that if the package uses a build system which doesn't support load control, load will surge high. It is currently happening with me while installing Mongo, because the build system scons doesn't have load control feature. On Mar 29, 2013 11:36 PM, "Michael Mol" wrote: > On 03/29/2013 01:46 PM, Dale wrote: > > =C2=BBQ=C2=AB wrote: > >> On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:54:37 +0000 > >> Stroller wrote: > >> > >>> On 29 March 2013, at 03:36, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > >>>>> ... > >>>>>> I can only imagine he was pointing out that you have a single CPU > >>>>>> with four cores in it. > >>>>> You're right, of course. I should have said /cores/. > >>>> Cores or CPUs.. in this context it's *almost*, __NOT EXACTLY__ same. > >>> Which is exactly what was so twitch inducing! > >> Whatever you do, don't read the first sentence at > >> . > >> > >> > >> > > > > Especially this FIRST part: > > > > "A *multi-core processor* is a single computing > > component . . ." > > > > So, it is a SINGLE component. To me, CPUs means having more than one > > CPU component, such as dual CPUs or even quad CPUs which used to be > > fairly common. > > > > I have a single CPU computer. It has 4 cores but a single CPU. I hope > > to upgrade one day to a 8 core CPU. I'll still have a single CPU > > component installed tho. > > > > This is getting really funny. ROFL You can tell when the list is > > getting slow when we start parsing each word and each words meaning. ;= -) > > The list hasn't been slow all week. ^^ > > --089e0149522a2194f204d9213e67 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Another interesting point about this load control thing is t= hat if the package uses a build system which doesn't support load contr= ol, load will surge high.

It is currently happening with me while installing Mongo, be= cause the build system scons doesn't have load control feature.

On Mar 29, 2013 11:36 PM, "Michael Mol"= ; <mikemol@gmail.com> wrote:=
On 03/29/2013 01:46 PM, Dale wrote:
> =C2=BBQ=C2=AB wrote:
>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:54:37 +0000
>> Stroller <str= oller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 29 March 2013, at 03:36, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> I can only imagine he was pointing out that you ha= ve a single CPU
>>>>>> with four cores in it.
>>>>> You're right, of course. I should have said /cores= /.
>>>> Cores or CPUs.. in this context it's *almost*, __NOT E= XACTLY__ same.
>>> Which is exactly what was so twitch inducing!
>> Whatever you do, don't read the first sentence at
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-core_processor&g= t;.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Especially this FIRST part:
>
> "A *multi-core processor* is a single computing
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computing> component . . ." >
> So, it is a SINGLE component. =C2=A0To me, CPUs means having more than= one
> CPU component, such as dual CPUs or even quad CPUs which used to be > fairly common.
>
> I have a single CPU computer. =C2=A0It has 4 cores but a single CPU. = =C2=A0I hope
> to upgrade one day to a 8 core CPU. =C2=A0I'll still have a single= CPU
> component installed tho.
>
> This is getting really funny. =C2=A0ROFL =C2=A0You can tell when the l= ist is
> getting slow when we start parsing each word and each words meaning. = =C2=A0;-)

The list hasn't been slow all week. ^^

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