[gentoo-user] kded4 keeping a flash drive busy

[gentoo-user] kded4 keeping a flash drive busy

[Francisco Ares]

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Hello All

Issuing a "fuser -m [mount-point]" shows that kded4 keeps using the flash
drive device, so I am not allowed to umount it.

Any hints on how to solve this?  The most relevant search result is in
http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=99419&start=15  , but I just
can't believe that I have to kill any process to make something so usual.

Thanks
Francisco
-- 
"If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you
and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have
one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas."
- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: [gentoo-user] kded4 keeping a flash drive busy

[Yohan Pereira]

On 03/04/13 at 10:56am, Francisco Ares wrote:
> Hello All
> 
> Issuing a "fuser -m [mount-point]" shows that kded4 keeps using the flash
> drive device, so I am not allowed to umount it.
> 
> Any hints on how to solve this?  The most relevant search result is in
> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=99419&start=15  , but I just
> can't believe that I have to kill any process to make something so usual.
> 
> Thanks
> Francisco

Hi,
  This is just a hunch but do you have nepomuk and friends enabled ? 
If so in the nepomuk server configuration is ignore all removable media
set? 

If that's not the case then maybe look under the service manager and try
disabling services that look like they might want to access your flash
drive. When I glanced at that list the only one that might be guilty is
the Nepomuk Search Module. 

-- 

- Yohan Pereira

The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference
between a mermaid and a seal.
                -- Mark Twain

Re: [gentoo-user] kded4 keeping a flash drive busy

[Francisco Ares]

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2013/4/3 Yohan Pereira <yohan.pereira@gmail.com>

> On 03/04/13 at 10:56am, Francisco Ares wrote:
> > Hello All
> >
> > Issuing a "fuser -m [mount-point]" shows that kded4 keeps using the flash
> > drive device, so I am not allowed to umount it.
> >
> > Any hints on how to solve this?  The most relevant search result is in
> > http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=99419&start=15  , but I just
> > can't believe that I have to kill any process to make something so usual.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Francisco
>
> Hi,
>   This is just a hunch but do you have nepomuk and friends enabled ?
> If so in the nepomuk server configuration is ignore all removable media
> set?
>
> If that's not the case then maybe look under the service manager and try
> disabling services that look like they might want to access your flash
> drive. When I glanced at that list the only one that might be guilty is
> the Nepomuk Search Module.
>
> --
>
> - Yohan Pereira
>
> The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference
> between a mermaid and a seal.
>                 -- Mark Twain
>
>

Hi,

I am sorry, I think I did not make myself clear.

The only process using the flash drive is "kded4".  The link I sent was the
closest search result about the same issue (not able to umount a flash
drive).

Thanks
Francisco
-- 
"If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you
and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have
one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas."
- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: [gentoo-user] kded4 keeping a flash drive busy

[Alan McKinnon]

On 03/04/2013 20:47, Francisco Ares wrote:
> 2013/4/3 Yohan Pereira <yohan.pereira@gmail.com
> <mailto:yohan.pereira@gmail.com>>
> 
>     On 03/04/13 at 10:56am, Francisco Ares wrote:
>     > Hello All
>     >
>     > Issuing a "fuser -m [mount-point]" shows that kded4 keeps using
>     the flash
>     > drive device, so I am not allowed to umount it.
>     >
>     > Any hints on how to solve this?  The most relevant search result is in
>     > http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=99419&start=15  , but I just
>     > can't believe that I have to kill any process to make something so
>     usual.
>     >
>     > Thanks
>     > Francisco
> 
>     Hi,
>       This is just a hunch but do you have nepomuk and friends enabled ?
>     If so in the nepomuk server configuration is ignore all removable media
>     set?
> 
>     If that's not the case then maybe look under the service manager and try
>     disabling services that look like they might want to access your flash
>     drive. When I glanced at that list the only one that might be guilty is
>     the Nepomuk Search Module.
> 
>     --
> 
>     - Yohan Pereira
> 
>     The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference
>     between a mermaid and a seal.
>                     -- Mark Twain
> 
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am sorry, I think I did not make myself clear.
> 
> The only process using the flash drive is "kded4".  The link I sent was
> the closest search result about the same issue (not able to umount a
> flash drive).

How do you mount the flash drive?

I find dolphin gives me quite different behaviours between using the
Device Notifier widget, clicking a stored shortcut in dolphin's left
sidebar and the old fashioned way on the command line.

It's not unexpected that kded4 is the process using the mount point; the
kioslaves are plugins and the worker process that uses them is a child
of kded4 (and keeps the name kded4). My next step would be to record
what ps says about the process before and after trying to umount it the
first time.


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] kded4 keeping a flash drive busy

[Francisco Ares]

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2013/4/3 Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com>

> On 03/04/2013 20:47, Francisco Ares wrote:
> > 2013/4/3 Yohan Pereira <yohan.pereira@gmail.com
> > <mailto:yohan.pereira@gmail.com>>
> >
> >     On 03/04/13 at 10:56am, Francisco Ares wrote:
> >     > Hello All
> >     >
> >     > Issuing a "fuser -m [mount-point]" shows that kded4 keeps using
> >     the flash
> >     > drive device, so I am not allowed to umount it.
> >     >
> >     > Any hints on how to solve this?  The most relevant search result
> is in
> >     > http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=99419&start=15  , but I
> just
> >     > can't believe that I have to kill any process to make something so
> >     usual.
> >     >
> >     > Thanks
> >     > Francisco
> >
> >     Hi,
> >       This is just a hunch but do you have nepomuk and friends enabled ?
> >     If so in the nepomuk server configuration is ignore all removable
> media
> >     set?
> >
> >     If that's not the case then maybe look under the service manager and
> try
> >     disabling services that look like they might want to access your
> flash
> >     drive. When I glanced at that list the only one that might be guilty
> is
> >     the Nepomuk Search Module.
> >
> >     --
> >
> >     - Yohan Pereira
> >
> >     The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference
> >     between a mermaid and a seal.
> >                     -- Mark Twain
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am sorry, I think I did not make myself clear.
> >
> > The only process using the flash drive is "kded4".  The link I sent was
> > the closest search result about the same issue (not able to umount a
> > flash drive).
>
> How do you mount the flash drive?
>
> I find dolphin gives me quite different behaviours between using the
> Device Notifier widget, clicking a stored shortcut in dolphin's left
> sidebar and the old fashioned way on the command line.
>
> It's not unexpected that kded4 is the process using the mount point; the
> kioslaves are plugins and the worker process that uses them is a child
> of kded4 (and keeps the name kded4). My next step would be to record
> what ps says about the process before and after trying to umount it the
> first time.
>
>
> --
> Alan McKinnon
> alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
>
>
>
Thanks, gonna try that.

Francisco
-- 
"If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you
and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have
one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas."
- George Bernard Shaw

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Re: [gentoo-user] kded4 keeping a flash drive busy

[Yohan Pereira]

On 03/04/13 at 03:47pm, Francisco Ares wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am sorry, I think I did not make myself clear.
> 
> The only process using the flash drive is "kded4".  The link I sent was the
> closest search result about the same issue (not able to umount a flash
> drive).
> 
> Thanks
> Francisco

Well the reason I suggested that you look under the service manager is
because the services listed there are kded modules AFAIR, i.e. they are
all clubbed together and run under the process called kded4. Maybe one
of them is acting up. 

-- 

- Yohan Pereira

The difference between a Miracle and a Fact is exactly the difference
between a mermaid and a seal.
                -- Mark Twain

Re: [gentoo-user] kded4 keeping a flash drive busy

[Andrés Becerra Sandoval]

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On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Francisco Ares <frares@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello All
>
> Issuing a "fuser -m [mount-point]" shows that kded4 keeps using the flash
> drive device, so I am not allowed to umount it.
>
> Any hints on how to solve this?  The most relevant search result is in
> http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=99419&start=15  , but I just
> can't believe that I have to kill any process to make something so usual.
>
> Thanks
> Francisco
> --
> "If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you
> and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have
> one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas."
> - George Bernard Shaw
>


Hello,

I think this is the bug:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304943

-- 
  Andrés Becerra Sandoval

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