From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41AB8198005 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 01:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5293CE0771; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 01:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oa0-f53.google.com (mail-oa0-f53.google.com [209.85.219.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE7F0E06F3 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 01:34:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id m1so4106944oag.12 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:34:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=OT3iAu/c2U6cN0ldgwNqD4f0QBRi+PLsxjQdaYocBUk=; b=migZCZuZDxmOlmcFeEWSMRG5ynnF/MEZ4rJXcAPQpBXn+eTASOZrGNrre8axVTkdUm EGdbQYYALPxk+U2ZxB1CufuVBVOf+Ipmxti3d8tUJCyi/DbeAkjmoIVdMb4VD74/quaa ho8AGn9dMSM9iVpH9k3BHkqOhPzR+zYfwqnaMoZb5AHGbRvWzRFsKdJ43FIOHoGCAk6c RglXMXMpPHmWvOrV28WNRHifHjD2bOZ3p0K4gJb7yLMxJ44wOTIbCuVZYfrIFiKXP9V6 hwajsQfL+fX9f6svF/pPIvnfaSLPHUf+NAoCE0MvSCIuQUc8g9mZKBrtNvKeoBi8eh5l /23A== X-Received: by 10.182.144.40 with SMTP id sj8mr3809678obb.82.1363397646050; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.60.144.68 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:33:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201303151357.47100.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> References: <201303151357.47100.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> From: Francisco Ares Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:33:45 -0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ntfs-3g problem (I suppose) - locking system To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae939992d61708004d800c0f9 X-Archives-Salt: 35b623e4-df42-44af-bd05-c99512b2868a X-Archives-Hash: afe3ccaf49be95cd0b13574a4fb0a39e --14dae939992d61708004d800c0f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2013/3/15 Mick > On Friday 15 Mar 2013 01:18:03 Francisco Ares wrote: > > Hello. > > > > During some months now, this machine was (and still is, sometimes) > > suffering from a strange progressive lock down. It always has begun with > > the web browser, passing to the whole X environment, and finally I could > > not even use a console. > > > > After several trial and error actions, as no log entry could give any > hint > > on what is going on, it seems that I found something consistent. > > > > This machine is a dual-boot Linux/Windows, as my wife once in a while > needs > > to work on a Windows O.S. . The lock down starts when she saves a file > > received by e-mail in a ntfs-3g mounted partition, so that file would > also > > be accessible whenever she uses Windows. > > > > The reason why I suspect of ntfs-3g is that when the lock down starts, > that > > is, if only the web browser locks, just unmounting (and mounting back > > later) that partition, recovers the web browser functionality. Sometimes, > > when the lock down has already affected the whole graphic environment, > but > > I still may use a console, again unmounting that same partition also > > unlocks everithing. > > > > I have already tried to emerge ntfs-3g with different use flags, but the > > problem persists. Even built a new kernel and re-emerged ntfs-3g after > > that. Now ntfs-3g package is using its own "fuse". > > > > I would really appreciate any hints on what to do or where to look for > any > > more information on this subject. Perhaps I am still looking at an > effect, > > and not the cause. > > > > Thanks > > Francisco > > It could be a number of things, but would start with the basics, checking > that > there is adequate space in the partition and that the fs has been > defragmented > (Windows 7 defrag application is quite effective and for WinXP there is > mydefrag). While you have booted into MSWindows, you might as well run > chkdsk. > > Other than that, uou could try the 'big_writes' mount option in ntfs-3g > which may make a difference. > -- > Regards, > Mick > I didn't try to defragment that partition, yet. I can't believe that ntfs-3g would not take care of fragmentation, but I will do a defrag just in case ;-) Will try that "big_writes" too. Thanks Francisco -- "If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange apples then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea and I have one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have two ideas." - George Bernard Shaw --14dae939992d61708004d800c0f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
2013/3/15 Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.c= om>
On Friday 15 Mar 2013 01:18:03 Fran= cisco Ares wrote:
> Hello.
>
> During some months now, this machine was (and still is, sometimes)
> suffering from a strange progressive lock down. It always has begun wi= th
> the web browser, passing to the whole X environment, and finally I cou= ld
> not even use a console.
>
> After several trial and error actions, as no log entry could give any = hint
> on what is going on, it seems that I found something consistent.
>
> This machine is a dual-boot Linux/Windows, as my wife once in a while = needs
> to work on a Windows O.S. . =C2=A0The lock down starts when she saves = a file
> received by e-mail in a ntfs-3g mounted partition, so that file would = also
> be accessible whenever she uses Windows.
>
> The reason why I suspect of ntfs-3g is that when the lock down starts,= that
> is, if only the web browser locks, just unmounting (and mounting back<= br> > later) that partition, recovers the web browser functionality. Sometim= es,
> when the lock down has already affected the whole graphic environment,= but
> I still may use a console, again unmounting that same partition also > unlocks everithing.
>
> I have already tried to emerge ntfs-3g with different use flags, but t= he
> problem persists. Even built a new kernel and re-emerged ntfs-3g after=
> that. Now ntfs-3g package is using its own "fuse".
>
> I would really appreciate any hints on what to do or where to look for= any
> more information on this subject. =C2=A0Perhaps I am still looking at = an effect,
> and not the cause.
>
> Thanks
> Francisco

It could be a number of things, but would start with the basics= , checking that
there is adequate space in the partition and that the fs has been defragmen= ted
(Windows 7 defrag application is quite effective and for WinXP there is
mydefrag). =C2=A0While you have booted into MSWindows, you might as well ru= n
chkdsk.

Other than that, uou could try the 'big_writes' mount option in ntf= s-3g
which may make a difference.
--
Regards,
Mick


I didn't try to defragment tha= t partition, yet.=C2=A0 I can't believe that ntfs-3g would not take car= e of fragmentation, but I will do a defrag just in case ;-)

Will try that "big_writes" too.

Thanks
Francisco--
"If you have an apple and I have an apple and we exchange appl= es then you and I will still each have one apple. But if you have an idea a= nd I have one idea and we exchange these ideas, then each of us will have t= wo ideas." - George Bernard Shaw --14dae939992d61708004d800c0f9--