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From: Jeff Smelser <tradergt@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OpenSSH upgrade warning
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2015 12:00:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGymGE=79ycc5Fzu1-Q9sKwEGCriMpGwuDA=7N0C=1hk6yVT3Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56423DAD.5030200@gentoo.org>

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Michael Orlitzky <mjo@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On 11/10/2015 01:26 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> >
> > I think you are approaching this problem from the wrong viewpoint. You
> > have to assume an attacker has vastly more resources to bear on the
> > problem than you have. Thanks to Amazon and the cloud, this is now a
> > very true reality. Brute force attacking a root password is nowhere near
> > as complex as the maths would lead you to believe; for one thing they
> > are decidedly not random. The fact is that they are heavily biased,
> > mostly due to 1) you need to be able to remember it and 2) you need to
> > be able to type it.
> >
> > Humans have been proven to be very bad at coming up with passwords that
> > are truly good[1] and hard for computers to figure out. And our brains
> > and very very VERY good at convincing us that our latest dumb idea is
> > awesome. Are you really going to protect the mother lode (root password)
> > with a single system proven to be quite broken and deeply flawed by
> wetware?
> >
>
> I know all that, but I asked you to assume that I'm not an idiot and
> that it would take forever to brute-force my root password =)
>
> I'm not going to tell you what it is, so you'll have to believe me.
>
>
I guess from this your assuming that everyones passwords that have been
hacked are god, birthdays and such?

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-10 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-10  1:38 [gentoo-user] OpenSSH upgrade warning Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10  3:26 ` Jeff Smelser
2015-11-10  9:53   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-10 10:02     ` Neil Bothwick
2015-11-10 10:05     ` Alan McKinnon
2015-11-10 14:47   ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 15:30     ` Alan McKinnon
2015-11-10 15:58       ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 16:13         ` J. Roeleveld
2015-11-10 16:26           ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 17:17             ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 20:52             ` wabenbau
2015-11-10 21:00               ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 21:11                 ` wabenbau
2015-11-10 21:23                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 21:48                     ` Dale
2015-11-10 23:22                       ` wabenbau
2015-11-10 18:26         ` Alan McKinnon
2015-11-10 18:55           ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 19:00             ` Jeff Smelser [this message]
2015-11-10 19:17               ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 19:20                 ` Jeff Smelser
2015-11-10 19:23                 ` Stanislav Nikolov
2015-11-10 19:25                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 19:32                     ` Stanislav Nikolov
2015-11-10 19:38                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 19:31                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2015-11-10 19:37                     ` Stanislav Nikolov
2015-11-10 19:37                     ` Jeff Smelser
2015-11-11  4:51 ` Walter Dnes
2015-11-12 12:05 ` Rich Freeman

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