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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 19:37:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_nY+upmq9qvy8wnHxkP_A6=pvW3Sd31f2+s9P_Xsxxp4g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vbitldj5.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de>

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:41 PM, lee <lee@yagibdah.de> wrote:
>
> To me it is one of the good reasons, and an important one.  Plain text
> can usually always be read without further ado, be it from rescue
> systems you booted or with software available on different operating
> systems.  It can be also be processed with scripts and sent as email.
> You can probably even read it on your cell phone.  You can still read
> log files that were created 20 years ago when they are plain text.

Doing any of that stuff requires the use of software capable of
reading text files.  It isn't like you can just interpret the magnetic
fields on your disk with your eyes.

Sure, there are a lot more utilities that can read text files than
journal files, but you just need to arrange to have them handy.
They'll be ubiquitous before long since every distro around will end
up needing them.

>
> Can you do all that with the binary files created by systemd?  I can't
> even read them on a working system.
>

You just type journalctl to read the live system logs.  For offline
use you just type journalctl --file=filename.  Or you can just run
strings on the file I imagine if you're desperate.  If it doesn't work
on a "working system" then your system isn't working.


-- 
Rich


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-02-23  0:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-17 18:26 [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files lee
2015-02-17 18:37 ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-17 18:38 ` Alexander Kapshuk
2015-02-17 19:09   ` Alexander Kapshuk
2015-02-17 19:29   ` covici
2015-02-17 19:45     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2015-02-17 22:31       ` Marc Joliet
2015-02-18 19:01         ` systemd journal location (was: Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files) Marc Joliet
2015-02-18 18:22       ` [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files gottlieb
2015-02-18 18:53         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2015-02-18 22:43           ` gottlieb
2015-02-18 20:49     ` lee
2015-02-18 22:31       ` Neil Bothwick
2015-02-22 23:41         ` lee
2015-02-23  0:19           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2015-05-04  5:57             ` lee
2015-05-04 14:56               ` Tom H
2015-05-09 15:01                 ` lee
2015-05-09 16:00                   ` Peter Humphrey
2015-02-23  0:37           ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2015-05-04  6:09             ` lee
2015-02-23  8:15           ` Marc Joliet
2015-02-23  8:41             ` covici
2015-02-23 16:18               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2015-02-23 17:49                 ` covici
2015-02-23 18:10                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2015-02-23 19:19                     ` Marc Joliet
2015-02-23 19:31                       ` covici
2015-02-23 19:35                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2015-02-23 20:07                           ` covici
2015-02-23 23:18                           ` covici
2015-02-23 23:29                             ` Neil Bothwick
2015-02-24  0:50                               ` Peter Humphrey
2015-02-24  7:21                                 ` Marc Joliet
2015-02-24  9:57                                 ` Matti Nykyri
2015-02-23 19:26                     ` covici
2015-05-04  6:14             ` lee
2015-05-04 11:24               ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-09 15:08                 ` lee
2015-05-09 18:07                   ` Rich Freeman
2015-05-10 17:51                   ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2015-02-17 18:41 ` [gentoo-user] " Matti Nykyri
2015-02-17 22:51   ` Peter Humphrey
2015-02-17 23:13     ` Peter Humphrey
2015-02-17 23:23       ` Jan Sever
2015-02-17 23:54         ` Peter Humphrey
2015-02-18  7:38       ` Mick
2015-02-18  9:38         ` Peter Humphrey
2015-02-17 23:52     ` Rich Freeman
2015-02-17 23:55       ` Peter Humphrey
2015-02-17 19:02 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2015-02-17 19:02 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan Mackenzie
2015-02-17 19:17   ` lee
2015-02-17 22:01     ` Mick
2015-02-18 13:29 ` Stroller
2015-02-18 20:40   ` lee
2015-02-18 21:33     ` Stroller
2015-02-22 23:48       ` lee
2015-02-23  0:21         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2015-02-23  2:57         ` Dale
2015-02-23  3:06           ` Peter Humphrey
2015-02-23  4:28             ` Dale
2015-02-23 10:13               ` Peter Humphrey
2015-02-24 19:30         ` Stroller
2015-02-19 19:02 ` Fernando Rodriguez
2015-02-19 19:11   ` Jan Sever
2015-02-23  0:03     ` lee

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