From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA0E13877A for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 02:15:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7AF4FE0BF3; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 02:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-f176.google.com (mail-ve0-f176.google.com [209.85.128.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 73598E0BE9 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 02:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f176.google.com with SMTP id db12so2933096veb.7 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:15:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=s0M0Xj4Lng38KwBOIsENcZfW+6gbt/0XLGVycfg8SC8=; b=wxzeUIZzmluPnqX3uYiDjLFc4Hsi1vP9I+lCydjwzyDRwOdhUpL/GnzRymVuj20WWm lAsZOcmqekFSgJ4JdQO1sR3Oil2b2UbubJic1mNSST/6DUfdXuQcnmEy1Z3ooDU6kkEx uZnEZggw76xgG6lpClrJ5gkO856+H+vOYqGzs1QQrp6KF+99ZfooIdcEAt3GXV7hP7C4 Cfy1rk9E+bWSEceGwxQj8R8M/iwIZwYg1d4+aBVSJFUjad5kkRE0MAv53+iQEv+5glg+ Y46cNwwPB8LWnMjXiTZK9FX+sg2NdnRapZhdifO21PYk5i8R/tRwBQwWhow70E7rciBY +kCQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.210.168 with SMTP id mv8mr7451695vec.12.1403748945548; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:15:45 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.72.19 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 19:15:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <53AB804E.8010405@gmail.com> References: <53AA050F.4070907@gmail.com> <53AAF0CB.4060902@gmail.com> <20140625170952.3f3250c8@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <201406251745.06064.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20140625182940.5e6e4adf@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <53AB4A31.3030104@gmail.com> <53AB804E.8010405@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 22:15:45 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: r5OV9XgBdzUrIoYqCcLSjzNN0kA Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 8d8dcf57-67ba-4ce9-a12e-8281d0321f9c X-Archives-Hash: ccda897054b8d7dbb39a92aaa5c2646a On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Dale wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: > I don't have anything on the cloud to backup too. That would likely be > a good idea but I can't afford anything pricey, which is why I hadn't > bought a backup drive before now either. Plus, something I'd prefer to > keep under my thumb. Heck, some things here are encrypted, bank info > and such. Also, while I have DSL, it ain't real speedy. Backing up > that much data over my connection could take a while, like days, maybe > even a week or more. I put my backups on Amazon S3 reduced-redundancy - it is a few cents per GB per month. I think I have something like 20-30GB backed up. Oh, if you need to actually retrieve it that will cost you 10 cents per GB, but frankly if my house burned down that would be the least of my concerns. I'd only use the cloud to back up critical data. If you want to back up your mythtv and mp3 collection, then you're going to be uploading a LOT of data and paying quite a bit to store it. If you want to be storing TB of data offsite there are better ways of doing it. The advantage of something like S3 is that it is always there, which means you stick a duplicity script in your crontab and just periodically check up on it. You don't have to remember to do your backups. It just isn't practical to use it for more than a few dozen GB depending on your incremental strategy. I also have a 50Mbps outbound connection, which doesn't hurt. Your next best option is to find a friend with similar needs and give each other a place to upload your encrypted backups to. That will just cost you drive space, but if you're both planning on backing up 1TB of data it will still cost you the one-time drive purchase. If you want a quick cloud-capable backup solution, I'd look at duplicity. I just wish it had options for Google Drive (it supposedly does, but as far as I can tell it doesn't work, at least not with a two factor application password). Rich