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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 18:32:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_nRB3nQ6N4vMNBynSb+aqso8T+5yXb4XJu40e=mcOaxDw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53AB4A31.3030104@gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> What I really need to do, set up a RAID or some other backup method so
> that even if this happens again, I don't risk losing anything.  Then
> again, that will take time as well.  Also takes money.

Keep in mind that RAID is more about speed of recovery and protects
against the failure mode of total drive failure, which is a fairly
common failure mode.  A hard drive failure on a RAID involves no
unplanned downtime, and a need for some short planned downtime to
replace the drive.

Backup protects against a lot more, but typically results in a
recovery that takes hours, and when the drive goes you're down without
warning.

>
> Most of that is recorded TV shows, movies etc.  I also have some pics I
> took with my camera that can't be replaced.  Those I backup to DVDs
> pretty regular.  I use kbackup to tarball them and then burn them to
> DVDs.  It works.  One set is outside the home in case of fire.  The
> biggest thing is some of those shows would be hard to get again plus the
> effort to get them as well.

So, stuff like photos I backup to the cloud, or to offsite media
(generally I favor the cloud for active stuff, and offsite media for
stuff I'm done with).  Ditto for things like /etc, mysql, documents,
email, and other small but important things.

For stuff like MythTV recordings I used to just rely on RAID -
recognizing that there was a very real possibility that I could lose
them all.  Now I also do a backup to a drive that is normally left
unmounted, which isn't great, but since I moved to btrfs I wanted
something on ext4 that had daily rsnapshots.  Again, I'm willing to
risk losing this stuff.

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-25 22:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 116+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-24 23:09 [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% Dale
2014-06-25  4:20 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-06-25  5:05   ` Dale
2014-06-25  7:26     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-06-25  7:43       ` Dale
2014-06-25  7:41     ` thegeezer
2014-06-25  7:49       ` Dale
2014-06-25 10:42         ` thegeezer
2014-06-25 13:15           ` Dale
2014-06-25 14:03             ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 15:54               ` Dale
2014-06-25 16:09                 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-25 16:44                   ` Mick
2014-06-25 17:29                     ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-25 22:16                       ` Dale
2014-06-25 22:32                         ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2014-06-26  2:07                           ` Dale
2014-06-26  2:15                             ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-26  4:57                               ` Dale
2014-06-29 15:17                                 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2014-07-01  8:30                                   ` Dale
2014-07-01  8:46                                     ` Helmut Jarausch
2014-07-01  8:58                                       ` Dale
2014-07-01  9:06                                         ` Helmut Jarausch
2014-07-01  9:11                                           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-07-01  9:21                                             ` Dale
2014-07-01 10:19                                               ` J. Roeleveld
2014-07-01 12:36                                                 ` Dale
2014-07-01  8:49                                     ` J. Roeleveld
2014-06-25 22:50                         ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-26  2:15                           ` Dale
2014-06-26  5:56                             ` Mick
2014-06-26  5:59                               ` Mick
2014-06-26 14:14                                 ` Dale
2014-06-26 15:08                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-26 15:31                                     ` Dale
2014-06-27 13:22                                     ` Mick
2014-06-27 20:54                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-27 21:26                                         ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2014-06-27 21:41                                           ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-28  7:48                                         ` [gentoo-user] " Mick
2014-06-28  8:37                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-28 11:54                                           ` Dale
2014-06-26  7:22                               ` [gentoo-user] " Alberto Luaces
2014-06-26 10:11                             ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2014-06-26 11:03                               ` Dale
2014-06-26 11:24                                 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-26 11:40                                   ` Dale
2014-06-26  0:38                         ` Bill Kenworthy
2014-06-26  2:31                           ` Dale
2014-06-26 17:39                         ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2014-06-28 11:55                           ` Dale
2014-06-28 12:40                             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-28 13:05                               ` Dale
2014-06-28 13:08                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-28 13:58                                   ` Dale
2014-06-28 14:15                                     ` Dale
2014-06-28 14:50                                       ` Peter Humphrey
2014-06-28 16:00                                         ` Mick
2014-06-28 17:30                                           ` Dale
2014-06-25 16:38                 ` [gentoo-user] " Rich Freeman
2014-06-26  2:13                   ` Dale
2014-06-25 18:44               ` Douglas J Hunley
2014-06-25 18:50                 ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-26 16:05               ` Dale
2014-06-26  0:00             ` David Haller
2014-06-26  2:40               ` Dale
2014-06-26  6:05                 ` David Haller
2014-06-26 16:19             ` [gentoo-user] OT: power requirement (WAS: smartctrl drive error @60%) Frank Steinmetzger
2014-06-26 17:05               ` Daniel Frey
2014-06-26 23:01                 ` Bill Kenworthy
2014-06-26 17:31               ` Dale
2014-06-25 16:55         ` [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60% Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-06-25 17:06           ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 17:15             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-06-25 17:44               ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 21:19                 ` J. Roeleveld
2014-06-26  3:45                   ` Dale
2014-06-26  1:16                 ` Daniel Frey
2014-06-26  3:54                   ` Dale
2014-06-26 10:05                     ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-26 10:54                       ` Dale
2014-06-26 10:52                     ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-26 11:20                       ` Dale
2014-06-26 12:57                         ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-26 13:58                           ` Dale
2014-06-26 17:14                           ` Daniel Frey
2014-06-26 17:21                     ` Daniel Frey
2014-06-25 21:11           ` Dale
2014-06-25  9:46     ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-25 10:05       ` Dale
2014-06-25 10:55         ` thegeezer
2014-06-25 11:02           ` Helmut Jarausch
2014-06-25 13:21             ` covici
2014-06-25 12:33           ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 14:23             ` Neil Bothwick
2014-06-25 14:29               ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 16:00                 ` Dale
2014-06-25 15:30             ` covici
2014-06-25 16:34               ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-25 17:58               ` Alan McKinnon
2014-06-25 12:30         ` Dale
2014-06-25  7:35 ` Marc Joliet
2014-06-29  3:27 ` Dale
2014-06-29  3:34   ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-29  4:44     ` Dale
2014-06-29  7:38       ` Mick
2014-06-29  8:42         ` Dale
2014-06-29  9:40           ` Mick
2014-06-29 12:05       ` Rich Freeman
2014-06-29 12:30         ` Dale
2014-07-01  5:52         ` Mick
2014-07-01  6:09           ` J. Roeleveld
2014-07-01  7:21             ` Dale
2014-07-01 10:48             ` Rich Freeman
2014-07-01 10:55           ` Alan McKinnon

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