From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7461389FE for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:27:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3EE7BE08D5; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:27:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qc0-f179.google.com (mail-qc0-f179.google.com [209.85.216.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C56CE084E for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qc0-f179.google.com with SMTP id o8so6150523qcw.38 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:27:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=ecYNHtzASSNYFzv+G6gTOpgoEgO92ClqBY/niUV8i48=; b=Dp9hDCBSn3O7B/sJjzeRtfSLCkO314yZT3UzU7DCWW1aGk23/rxQBfgexeyDlZMMpP uJ7uIJvo0bOryJ+ZGd/2203SIGUAUcBBJHcelJAET8pCw+bIJmOv5/z2Mkt7xfN9xcq2 3DFO4o26YO5dI5f/DkAQyfjDfH6n8hRqR7HduJ8u95Aegh1zQ2yg0pG0Fk5NrM7WDtJ6 OB9wvD6biHLkiv/9w/Ug8qQvsEv2GjGBinAggx9KMbCeyuuxsbFhY0fSXVP3Fw3J4TrW 8sXy+d9tlipZSYqOt1A1qpsT6OhaTxu5rkC15jolT/Tf9oXYcE5y7PAUj3qFqkqkU1/A tg6A== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.2.135 with SMTP id 7mr40598782qaj.64.1414780063264; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:27:43 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.102.134 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:27:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:27:43 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: bq1nSRYobRiQ_VaYOwLqVCL2a2Q Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [~amd64] NFS server broken again :( From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 2564b1ae-91a2-4e41-ad71-58057d63bbbe X-Archives-Hash: daa090cecd1853f14ae2c02dbd1a7a15 On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Tom H wrote: > Is "After" really necessary as an option? I've never come across a > service that uses "After" without a "Requires" or a Wants" but I've > never taken the time to look. > Hmm, I found After more common that Wants, but maybe I only look at units that have problems. :) I think the intent is to handle optional dependencies, but in practice I don't know that it works well. It would almost be better to have some kind of cluster config file that specifies all the actual dependencies (possibly including cross-host) and have it spit out all the unit dependencies automatically. That is a bit much to ask for now, and probably a bit much for somebody who just wants their laptop to launch kde after all their mounts are ready. Specifying After vs Wants separately does make sense. Dependency doesn't have to imply sequential. -- Rich