From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6F51387FD for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 19:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07564E0AE8; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 19:31:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-f181.google.com (mail-ve0-f181.google.com [209.85.128.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 02237E08B1 for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 19:31:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f181.google.com with SMTP id pa12so3843835veb.12 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 12:31:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=dZa04ra1MB5zU4VPli7PW8yoCKMnlxP+i6ur5AzY4Yc=; b=CgSBp+2DGF51mxc3pTha0AiNTt5Jbe7q4I5tT/2S2/UPQYqrFOs/Nmu/wFjm1Pmoay 7VpSErZN9B0v0Sjbo51daw5wpRMbIgq1z4OjP0WYvHFkueVK4sReHre7TVTJOJeTsmvR aRkeIW5//HemBAotQ3UB2yHL7/PhTkAZAoYrESXTb4sp11mX/LmsmbRmgMmXmzE5Ngpb uoBBcRHwitJcccEZ0rLAJGXeyyWhHWKVNHn/uUQTCAanU13j1ZqWdqIBfZB1Qu0uITn7 dQ5CT0Yf/wqQRsJJZeActwRCqA9UvRPqsOxRX1A4398vS43LTV/sIFlUSUf8qihFP3Ur egtw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.139.101 with SMTP id qx5mr6748660vdb.17.1402083104151; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 12:31:44 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.30.227 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 12:31:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201406062013.19238.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> References: <20140603161406.0400709b5f38540475ac4c1f@web.de> <201406060646.36897.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <201406062013.19238.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 15:31:43 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: pKsYFuKRBH6l6AlMXInOMnlZ5p4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: d335cc88-4366-420d-bce7-74bedc9ee180 X-Archives-Hash: 2985199472ffa6724198922bd2816eab On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Mick wrote: > > I am mostly happy with openrc and therefore have no reason to move to the > systemd monoculture, unless gentoo falls in line with Debian et al. and leaves > me no choice. > I don't really see that happening anytime soon - it will be more likely to become an issue for the more complex desktop environments (Gnome is already going this way - KDE may very well go this way later). Historically they're the first packages to require things like HAL, udev, dbus, pulseaudio, etc (and on Gentoo the maintainers tend to do a good job of minimizing dependencies). I think many will switch to systemd anyway, simply because that is the way the wind is blowing and it does have some benefits depending on your situation (but so do a number of other configurations). I tend to use it by default on new installs, and anytime I find myself tweaking my monit rules I keep bumping up migrating entirely to systemd a little higher on my to-do list. Rich