From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2020 07:54:26 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_n7XQM9uxmiJpSBEyL3SncG2hHU93RT_Wt-FE21HdiB7g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201206123718.07e5689a@digimed.co.uk>
On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 7:37 AM Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Maybe the devs need to rename the systemd-tmpfiles package to satisfy
> those that break out in a sweat at the mention of the s-word :)
Or maybe people who care a great deal about the filenames of stuff
just could rename them as they prefer? :)
And if the part you don't like is what website or tarball the source
is distributed from, well, it is FOSS so you can always just host it
yourself.
opentmpfiles is just a reimplementation of systemd-tmpfiles in bash
with the goal of running on platforms that don't support linux
syscalls (and I guess bash makes everything better cause C became
corrupt the moment Lennart learned how to program in it...).
So, if systemd-tmpfiles does something you don't like, chances are it
is just a matter of time before opentmpfiles does too.
I think the idea of having something more cross-platform is a good
one, though there is nothing really about systemd that isn't "open" -
it is FOSS. It just prioritizes using linux syscalls where they are
useful over implementing things in a way that work on other kernels,
which is more of a design choice than anything else. I mean, it is no
more wrong to use linux-specific syscalls than for the linux
developers to create them in the first place. In some situations the
linux-specific stuff lets things be done that aren't practical with
pure POSIX and safer manipulation of links is apparently one of them.
Really what probably wouldn't hurt is some kind of FOSS
POSIX-extension effort that tries to standardize stuff like this so
that it can be implemented across other kernels in a standard way, at
least for things like this which seem really useful. I suspect that
the systemd folks might be willing to accept cross-platform
improvements if it were practical to do so, and if not you could
always fork it.
--
Rich
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-04 1:40 [gentoo-user] Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way Dale
2020-12-04 2:06 ` Kusoneko
2020-12-04 7:44 ` Dale
2020-12-04 2:18 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-12-04 2:22 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-12-04 6:44 ` Dale
2020-12-04 14:23 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-12-04 17:02 ` Dale
2020-12-05 13:43 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-12-06 6:40 ` Dale
2020-12-04 10:47 ` Michael
2020-12-04 14:07 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-12-04 8:55 ` tastytea
2020-12-04 14:07 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-12-04 9:09 ` antlists
2020-12-04 10:06 ` Dale
2020-12-04 10:24 ` Michael
2020-12-07 4:24 ` Dale
2020-12-07 11:39 ` Wols Lists
2020-12-07 20:32 ` Dale
2020-12-06 7:55 ` [gentoo-user] " Martin Vaeth
2020-12-06 10:45 ` Michael
2020-12-06 12:37 ` Neil Bothwick
2020-12-06 12:53 ` Arve Barsnes
2020-12-06 12:54 ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2020-12-06 13:01 ` antlists
2020-12-06 13:45 ` Michael
2020-12-06 15:13 ` Rich Freeman
2020-12-06 16:25 ` Martin Vaeth
2020-12-06 12:55 ` antlists
2020-12-06 17:06 ` Martin Vaeth
2020-12-06 13:29 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-12-06 16:57 ` Martin Vaeth
2020-12-06 21:44 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-12-07 20:41 ` Martin Vaeth
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