From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE2C81389E2 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 03:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2429BE08B2; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 03:32:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com (mail-ie0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 205D8E08A0 for ; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 03:32:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id rl12so7698977iec.16 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 19:32:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=hGvkbIb/HhdVUxzRqCLG/eBkwkVIwIpQlZSNHOFRWjo=; b=JKrGj7ExxKyInwrN3e6LoFRAOmwb4idxqi/ndLpQouF1fnRb1ardXy6DFFXlSRDALW YWMXsU34IR+LddTFSO3Q4o4D/xu6fPue5zBg7CwYlAWY9ryOdY+C+gTMm2JfUMFif8LA Xq47oaP9ZjpU06Fxh60vmc8F1mm2rHgHhkhToHAR8Wugde7k43+gFWrSzBUjS5hwhYb3 wwbY5ZVT3TRhqs2MMhsesozfxMAccCbIwEgA7UXGWdGXlIdxTpP00CjGDytcsRjP4id9 h2ZpI4ea2eXG3i/U3kKj/nHTP0tLv2SWnsaun/PHIdLieuG2yclLurZTQrOEIhUkEZEc 9ZVg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.179.132 with SMTP id bq4mr40447206icb.61.1417318338406; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 19:32:18 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.9.80 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Nov 2014 19:32:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <547A7A89.1000606@iinet.net.au> References: <547A572B.2000601@marc-stuermer.de> <547A7A89.1000606@iinet.net.au> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 22:32:18 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: pN9AUgnJ_dYXq3OL-YNt3hGgVgI Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 87e6576b-b804-4905-b67b-bb5c66d40fc6 X-Archives-Hash: 37865a54112321cdabb301cdb5d01786 On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > I am already really annoyed that by default > systemd and apps designed to work with it leave traces on openrc based > systems. You're getting worked up about text files and filenames. I suppose you'll be really upset that bash completion files are now being installed by default, and packages install logrotate configs and cron scripts even if you don't use logrotate or cron. Sure, we could add a million more layers of conditionals to everything and you might save a few dozen inodes on your 10GB install, at the cost of lots of hassle/bugs/etc. In general Gentoo tends to take the pragmatic approach. If you're a purist of just about any kind you're going to have to hold your nose. However, this cuts both ways - the purists who don't want YOU to be able to make the choices YOU want to make also have to hold their noses. :) -- Rich