From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4678C1389E2 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 16:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A53E5E0A07; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 16:31:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f170.google.com (mail-ig0-f170.google.com [209.85.213.170]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9C069E08D0 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 16:31:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f170.google.com with SMTP id r2so16558513igi.3 for ; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:31:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=rDAfc0nLvZ5lC/ngHZKzwNn+GmDZu2pY9mo2t4DUfBg=; b=UINkYihR72M5PuPHGN1uIcKSYLMYBy4ZAYiacwhnz60Sid84QLseFALbXWQxMDcUh0 CYeafph9JoPF9H5ZWkWbhuZjEwtmI0B85A9e9Th38xIz9VjJWbDcoF7dMotV1pKr+7hr 8nZidwjFAdPoJgBgZF21Q31MI4afV7Lytf++tKUSHcdLsV6lKyaJ75V3W1B09J1oK6L9 nsKGWyKAjh5J4yQNV14/3KrLk2BPAE6OIBsos7D9yCy6o0LRq+N+4TU0g7JeoY3M/R/V pptuoqsmsu7Et934QcM3/PR9lEJv5/D6TdOleXsABZRLEJfJoP8DyQQCijK56VDsr6Xn lLUg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.10.93 with SMTP id u90mr120533ioi.13.1417537885675; Tue, 02 Dec 2014 08:31:25 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.9.80 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Dec 2014 08:31:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <3960768.YuRboVoBGm@kailua> Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2014 11:31:25 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: AwOX2SK-RYQHZMg4Usk1G4Laou0 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Custom ebuilds for CoreOS From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 60d123f4-5073-4477-9456-64ad563e6360 X-Archives-Hash: 52261d536f568c6433e21ef2c135ad74 On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 10:35 AM, James wrote: > > I do not see the "/usr" types of systems (like a current gentoo workstation > or server) going away any time soon. What I hope WE can pull off at Gentoo > is integration of the best of the CoreOS ideas into "Gentoo proper". I'm not suggesting that "/usr types of systems" are going away. I'm just pointing out that they're not really the focus of CoreOS (hosting them inside containers is, but not running these kinds of applications in the host itself). You seem to be wanting a minimalist profile of Gentoo, not CoreOS. I think many of us would love to see that, and I've been an advocate of paring down @system for just this reason. I just wouldn't use the term "CoreOS" with that as this is going to lead to confusion. CoreOS is a specialized distro intended to host containers, no more, no less. It isn't intended as a starting point for embedded projects or such. Sure, maybe you could make it work, but sooner or later CoreOS will make some change that will make you very unhappy because they aren't making it for you. But, again, I'm all for a more lightweight Gentoo profile that doesn't bundle stuff like openssh, or even an init implementation (since we have several to choose from now). -- Rich