From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AB391382C5 for ; Tue, 12 May 2020 02:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 74C9DE08DC; Tue, 12 May 2020 02:21:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ej1-f47.google.com (mail-ej1-f47.google.com [209.85.218.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23777E07A7 for ; Tue, 12 May 2020 02:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ej1-f47.google.com with SMTP id x20so6120465ejb.11 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 19:21:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=XiFyS5Qv6yhnjyqQ3/KfhImfOFy4bJXwSl8/mm2vcMk=; b=XRvY/ds1AcKlIGimFnbcRrfQCwLGRaEHz2mJ3WP/0YNhbblRpKd3/ri94uvnKEpqb/ mjyG8dvnUTw4MRmGQDJ18fJ9R9tC4pNDeX3IcF8nqVHmXd8H89+jnBWiM0n1t7yjhV0H rv/bVkp5t2MhE4rjUgJ1ro8jWy1CFVkZkh8/2HVfmlPIJqY4cAix+Gjw0PPc3c4sQgdU JDewmp0UZHt7d7QSwJ56dt0iG9xWa3YBhCPzMo1UJb+CejPU4SCR5iTBUNTYzfZ/MwIV QkHJ7smKvaENnosDRMLhnKsyVAtx2BM96L1moA4FE1IF1KgwIlZcnrwNz3ZnOULXk7+v 3c6A== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYPY2glPq4MyGflf6N+3O13SH7jB3WJNQvpWMdbhqZDtBMlChhK xsdQx0eTykUywu0d3zR7bTQIVedpE6OtHkpUkLHOjU/aCcU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypL5EmgsuVmJSq2LaNOMIlvBipdEXObKwKS4DKm13LiLPU9ZjFiLV1Oj0cEkLG6HZ3vJYF5uc9i7EkafrfVwEAA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:3296:: with SMTP id 22mr16392415ejw.195.1589250114384; Mon, 11 May 2020 19:21:54 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Rich Freeman Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 22:21:43 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Update Gentoo recently is becoming difficult To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: ea048bdc-c596-4625-830c-0aa9af99a14d X-Archives-Hash: c122c0fe5b71abc8977ee1326895a20e On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 10:02 PM Raphael MD wrote: > > now suffering with python 3.6/3.8 dependency mess. > On anything but a simple system it seems very difficult to deal with the python update without overriding the python flags on at least some packages. I recommend maintaining these in a separate config file to make it easier to clean these changes up eventually. Following the news item and enabling 3.6 and 3.7 in the interim is probably your best course of action to minimize the amount of micromangement. You shouldn't see much asking for 3.8 just yet, at least not when using stable keywords. If you're using testing keywords, well, thanks for testing, and you can see why they call it that. In a few weeks I think it will settle down, and it isn't quite as bad if you're updating daily/weekly since the number of changes is more moderate. Much of the problem stems from the fact that we're trying to rapidly get up to date on python. That means that various packages are in various states of support for various versions of python. Also, default settings for building python were changed before all the packages supporting them were stabilized. I can't really speak for those doing that but I suspect it is in part to avoid having to wait for bugs for all the impacted packages to get resolved, or to obtain permission to force them to be removed. -- Rich