From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF331389FE for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 22:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52678E0949; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 22:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qg0-f54.google.com (mail-qg0-f54.google.com [209.85.192.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1048EE08F8 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 22:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id q108so6484526qgd.27 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 15:30:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=m7lxRXuOnDyrhhAkRRu6o2SKHXn0VsgTW8p5kBp2F0Y=; b=s+6eEvSTWoj0eCIM+Y7LoEmf3j6pkD9gP4Qgr4vbtBIAX/DmSruL+EILisRHjmGz0s l1c3UqCnDXLXxMkZ/+Yy12uNg3BvEi7uI05zcDLf5YUPW1WaYZ6UMsdk92TVClnsnBIH E5WltQHhHYuFunQFgIyKLnHgW2gi+3NGtebuLCj0FVqqVgtRswRyhF0QtbswhHiuwg2b N0I48AvFm+HjL0KF2+tDxOpNIZNW+NDtg2joBFpOmKFcRMNacwZeBXOh74FYNAGoiGcQ rlmXeQO7NeLVdNyPT4evJozpN5eGTIkor17/1cMfvJcUGoim2i47MAdMCJSIxKFmnP5o 198w== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.2.135 with SMTP id 7mr42584386qaj.64.1414794618306; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 15:30:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.102.134 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 15:30:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1721456.cxhDToZz1Z@andromeda> <5707050.LYlfBLMIFp@andromeda> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:30:18 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: HJmNK0eSSKVquP0voL6Q9HqhZY4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 87ddac7f-ef76-44d6-875b-9f9822245e82 X-Archives-Hash: 6552b3ccb33dfc75da536e3987f72518 On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Tom H wrote: > > The systemd line was always that if you wanted to ship your logs off > to another box, use rsyslog. So I've never understood the embedding of > an httpd in systemd. I guess that the httpd server's useful if if you > want a basic send-the-logs-to-another-box-as-is, but that, if you want > to filter or manipulate the journald output, you have to use rsyslog > or syslog-ng. > If you're going to implement a log manager there is no reason to not let it export logs to a central manager. As far as filtering/manipulating logs goes, you can do plenty of that with journalctl already, and it supports dumping your logs in json so you can do anything you want with them in another tool. There aren't really any such tools around yet, but I'm sure we'll see them come up. -- Rich