From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-161964-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE94138A1A for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 11:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6F5ECE09B7; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 11:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pd0-f176.google.com (mail-pd0-f176.google.com [209.85.192.176]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FA33E0977 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 11:23:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pdbfl12 with SMTP id fl12so5771989pdb.2 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 03:23:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=t0N1ASJ6BWQFvzzSOGa1Y9rCgg7At/JNUgydzEE8TvY=; b=OFb3pGvy8XMYg9kR3hr9hJYsRnmuDUZboSqopY/u3HYcJFtJ44lhnE1KSvycnTRcIA bB37K9AiVvbVNEjDvJJcXjzolyznRgx7xTXuB6S9Pn7+KmbwIvlAx9yiugwkr3UaLzhR gBO0MH6rZPP5IM9ybFmYmCn1dfZeiM6hYHHnOgvPS1x+UrGdrtzH5UM2gWm7AhY20Jyb 59bSsltIQFZgMSWohHqbn2zhid30/v5elfRd4uer84crodrsxzCMgcl4ALVaxpchTxge 14pA247BmBQEmtzCSvAw0cx2vkDiPM4P/NEQkS2JIi3EHCNltyW+vDBWJ/kAofBgqbsH m3KA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.70.55.105 with SMTP id r9mr28230877pdp.147.1423480995348; Mon, 09 Feb 2015 03:23:15 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.85.39 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Feb 2015 03:23:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54D886B2.3060302@hanft.de> References: <20150209094818.GA3218@acm.fritz.box> <54D886B2.3060302@hanft.de> Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2015 06:23:15 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: e6BPUTBzO8QgtQTnTpULgMbL-GQ Message-ID: <CAGfcS_knDidbgS6dLbRYU6pBFWEA6MU+DnfwTJCz-beNjrZE1w@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] I don't seem to have a system log. Help, please! From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 78a57c74-8823-4ff4-b140-df3030d7105c X-Archives-Hash: add9f0aaa85ad3c5af59924f4f6c3006 On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 at 5:06 AM, Matthias Hanft <mh@hanft.de> wrote: > > And (from what I have heard) if you use systemd instead of > openrc, there are no syslog files at all - you have to export > them (from some binary database) manually to some human- > readable format. But I don't know much about that - never > used systemd on any Gentoo Linux yet. You don't have to export them from anything unless you need their content in a text file. If you just run "journalctl" that is the equivalent of typing cat /var/log/messages. If you do want to parse them with an external tool then you get your choice of several text formats and json. And yes, you can also run syslog, though I never really got the point of that. The value of the journal is that you capture full metadata for your log entries and you can just query it vs having to parse undelimited text files. Heck, it seems like half the enterprise monitoring tools start out by grabbing that log file that has discarded most of the context and then putting it in a database and attempting to re-create it all. -- Rich