From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 420F4158020 for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2022 14:16:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5BEF3E0958; Fri, 9 Dec 2022 14:16:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw1-f170.google.com (mail-yw1-f170.google.com [209.85.128.170]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03129E091A for ; Fri, 9 Dec 2022 14:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw1-f170.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-3bfd998fa53so53367627b3.5 for ; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 06:16:06 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=KLrYyWVqwI7ZrnfDEEXcFGm8LFCAJaNjBWfq6fYdzSM=; b=bPEaeNi/118cSUspn6RFP9ytZLQyDwxrpJWkJPBvOIoZwOx5JyXoF4a/qbX3LuqrF0 0KBLrQkQjs49TF9BWvV7ZoKL+GFZSjWdXsPZVbG7dMYbPdjkYUGrn5OxgzceiAz6pikK 5e4evbWNGCg7l3T5BxM3NZAr6FET8DTKN1LH1GTiEaQNL3Qq801G6gJoEKBmiYduGM80 8BrO7E2Ih+czV4eYbNtOzzjp2eDw6Yhu/Rs2oDSShpFI5hW52S2HGarq6fhQ8F5GgHWb HkBc4TAl7ETj35Efad5sr3n0y9WRCjQ10edISH7R6QX1OOx+jYR/E8jfyL0lkg8vKAcz ohBA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pm8bJDmroeZ/qzl/fe499QfBz5sIPaQu79+zKIzJWuZYw0OkIOP LuK8DEmOVEJFs+KKZYYGDhcVj+rD62QzR2GgKhB3ZhFW340= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf4NI/g0sIAn3AQqtugAAVCtt4DfyFnl8wElo91WDxDez4L3st2BSPQueZhFiUnMVasswQYfjLBHrOexUxQtyX4= X-Received: by 2002:a81:9bc3:0:b0:3e9:e7b6:5782 with SMTP id s186-20020a819bc3000000b003e9e7b65782mr18263382ywg.182.1670595365992; Fri, 09 Dec 2022 06:16:05 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9407e524-2226-6ba9-dd7f-bac635d083e3@gmail.com> <2398014.jE0xQCEvom@lenovo.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <2398014.jE0xQCEvom@lenovo.localdomain> From: Rich Freeman Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2022 09:15:59 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] NAS and replacing with larger drives To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: c00da0e4-25bb-47a4-b38d-7a9ab75e2f3c X-Archives-Hash: 38341591dc41d1c4001d9dc1a21324f9 On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 8:13 AM Michael wrote: > > Actually this had me thinking what is the need to back up the ... Internet? I'm sure the NSA knows the answer to this. Based on discussions I've had with people who are into such things they basically have their own Wayback machine, except it obviously doesn't respect robots.txt or takedown requests. I kind of wish the NSA sold IT services to the general public. I just assume they probably have root on all my devices and their own backups of everything on them. It would be nice if I had a disaster if I could just pay them to buy back a copy of my data, instead of having to have my own completely redundant backups. I'm personally using duplicity for encrypted cloud backups of the stuff that is most critical (documents, recent photos, etc), AWS Glacier for stuff I want long-term backups of (older photos mostly), and then bacula to store local copies of everything I have any interest in because that is easier than trying to restore it all off of Amazon if I lose an array or whatever. AWS Glacier is actually pretty cheap for backup, but be prepared to pay a fair bit for restoration. I'd only need to go to them in a serious disaster like a house fire, so having to pay $100 or whatever to get them to mail me a hard drive with my data isn't really that big of a deal. My backups are generally one-way affairs. -- Rich