From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 13:20:33 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_kGV0yUQE7FkD=RQPnRvgW0iWDPHEe_cs53RAvr_K0swg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <546F78D3.90809@tampabay.rr.com>
On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 12:39 PM, <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Regardless, the smaller, cheaper embedded linux crowd is very unlikely to
> ever embrace systemd. Why? Glad you asks. Thousands of reasons, but,
> here are a few: It is very common in embedded (anything) to run multiple
> and often different rtos (real time operating system) on different embedded
> systems products, often to circumvent licenses, royalties, duplication,
> security and a plethora of other reasons. Furthermore, many embedded systems
> run simultaneous codes on a single
> core and systemd does not fit into that scheme of things, at all.
>
Embedded is a VERY broad term. I agree that systemd isn't applicable
in all of these cases, but honestly in the cases where it doesn't
apply I don't see something like openrc or even sysvinit being a great
solution.
For the more PC-like appliance something like systemd is fairly
compelling once it matures, because it is basically a standardized
collection of stuff designed to work together. You could look at it a
bit like busybox in that regard.
This argument is also a bit like saying that since most embedded
devices don't have high-res displays, X11 and Wayland are dead-end
technologies.
The reality is that embedded tends to do things differently - it is
related to your typical desktop distro, but not really in pure
competition.
Look at it another way - the most popular PID 1 on Gentoo-derived
systems isn't even in the main portage repository. I'm speaking of
course of Chromebooks, which run Upstart.
--
Rich
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2014-11-21 17:39 ` [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now wireless
2014-11-21 18:20 ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2014-11-21 19:20 ` Paige Thompson
2014-11-21 19:07 ` Paige Thompson
2014-11-21 7:17 Paige Thompson
2014-11-21 7:31 ` Marc Stürmer
2014-11-21 18:17 ` Paige Thompson
2014-11-21 7:32 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-11-21 11:57 ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-21 17:36 ` Philip Webb
2014-11-24 17:54 ` Marc Stürmer
2014-11-24 18:25 ` Gevisz
2014-11-24 19:13 ` Marc Stürmer
2014-11-25 17:44 ` Gevisz
2014-11-26 7:45 ` Marc Stürmer
2014-11-26 8:39 ` Gevisz
2014-11-26 20:39 ` Walter Dnes
2014-11-26 21:19 ` Marc Stürmer
2014-11-26 10:06 ` thegeezer
2014-11-26 10:14 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-11-24 21:05 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-11-25 4:53 ` Gevisz
2014-11-25 8:41 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-11-25 17:09 ` Gevisz
2014-11-25 17:37 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-11-25 17:55 ` Gevisz
2014-11-25 19:49 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-11-25 20:24 ` Gevisz
2014-11-25 22:42 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-11-25 23:35 ` Emanuele Rusconi
2014-11-26 0:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2014-11-26 6:43 ` Gevisz
2014-11-26 5:59 ` Gevisz
2014-11-26 9:32 ` thegeezer
2014-11-25 18:37 ` Gevisz
2014-11-25 18:21 ` Maxim Wexler
2014-11-25 18:46 ` Gevisz
2014-11-27 14:24 ` Tom H
2014-11-25 7:15 ` Gevisz
2014-11-25 9:45 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-11-25 10:23 ` Peter Humphrey
2014-11-25 17:03 ` Gevisz
2014-11-25 19:56 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-11-25 20:13 ` Gevisz
2014-11-24 18:51 ` Emanuele Rusconi
2014-11-27 11:00 ` Tom H
2014-11-27 14:43 ` Marc Stuermer
2014-11-27 15:22 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-11-27 19:06 ` Marc Stürmer
2014-11-27 21:46 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-11-27 22:56 ` Paige Thompson
2014-11-27 23:01 ` Paige Thompson
2014-11-28 1:13 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-11-28 19:03 ` Paige Thompson
2014-11-28 19:14 ` Mick
2014-11-28 19:14 ` Michael Orlitzky
2014-11-21 18:37 ` Paige Thompson
2014-11-21 22:04 ` Marc Joliet
2014-11-24 12:18 ` Sid S
2014-11-24 12:20 ` Sid S
2014-11-23 17:44 ` Tanstaafl
2014-11-23 18:07 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-11-23 19:02 ` Marc Joliet
2014-11-23 19:11 ` Tanstaafl
2014-11-23 20:23 ` Tanstaafl
2014-11-23 20:26 ` Tanstaafl
2014-11-27 14:21 ` Tom H
2014-11-27 14:53 ` Marc Stuermer
2014-11-23 20:34 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2014-11-23 22:45 ` Tanstaafl
2014-11-27 14:21 ` Tom H
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