From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4D8221395E2 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2016 00:42:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A06F421C093; Mon, 14 Nov 2016 00:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qk0-f169.google.com (mail-qk0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30D02E0962 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2016 00:42:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk0-f169.google.com with SMTP id n21so79122257qka.3 for ; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 16:42:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=8qKPXSfkmZZ4mrV8J4KI2m5THOZEVfyoNJdHv7DkhvI=; b=T1gXrBq8izEnisvaWbUdRXn2hGR16tM1xBff3X7X75szj/4HF9lNLHSMVHTelTI5+z B1U9K/xUXEOUXhlgFR+up2cJMcCOju+Aspk3oltWfcD1DsbqYGV26nuKpLVrL6Ko3Q9k v3lrs5D6w3Fp+O8G7Rl1WNP/tcqh2YW1zLRV87mBZFDtZbd3wZ34nlU4kHEdm42q5Im3 LFW1LWae+ZlCnE8TiMu5t7oI9de4n3fBZoHm6s335AdO5rw1dLEY5nPKIc+1HbMW2cw1 MxE67iaI9oCvSydAn1pmrFRkuNUdxOXHiKRC5ooRFV+qPQxOfDC3FZHN8FXqPP5xz70G b33Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=8qKPXSfkmZZ4mrV8J4KI2m5THOZEVfyoNJdHv7DkhvI=; b=EqXznjpcOy0OtsLuZroPY0d4ecG8wQ4Q5gsiCib7XcFoIqamwuz7xVqG8GcwMIYYZo pA0z5IEPZll75mhirToEeYbkQzk1n5U4ozPPjGylu8KpChK4AA0PYaJVh7pjauhucLMB GFpgSkr4QfRdGMKqoJOYY8ZLyW09ZFQFWylfp3DiC/8Ry8KDpJVbgtb9PYqMrmJmq2vJ UeZFRYAAAc/NPuWwEiinGqjSCHdXpib+Fd9rBrOjcV7uJJqnGvy+yRY76EMLwY/qZ1Sj psqJI3kjixWC7pc88QrvJGnRWg4f5co+/w0PITGhB2pb66/cCkT6CfNpXreG17PISFKM uG+g== X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvc4jhWiWq71o/3Zj+kaBnQvDOZf4wgri/qSXelWND/nZo08hNebq82HSLIm9iJ6soo8943Cv37vx7SoJA== X-Received: by 10.55.26.156 with SMTP id l28mr14514074qkh.164.1479084136979; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 16:42:16 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.89.83 with HTTP; Sun, 13 Nov 2016 16:42:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <04AEC939-0265-4469-9CB2-E3591BEE60DB@antarean.org> From: Rich Freeman Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 19:42:16 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: C7hnJxW2TyOqAg_x6PT4i5piQQI Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] SMTP Relay To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 383fc884-daa2-4e0d-b31a-6a8666f91715 X-Archives-Hash: 93c866733d69934f0f0e6a46be803401 On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:46 PM, Auto Protection Info wrote: >>That looks like a mass mailer. Do you need to send thousands of emails > > No, but around 2000 emails a day maybe as maximum. > > I managed to configure correctly the relay, does anyone have a suggestion > for a free SMTP relay service please? > Best of luck with that, but I'd be shocked if one exists. Any SMTP relay that can actually get mail delivered to anybody needs to ensure that their service isn't used to send spam, or they'll quickly find that they can't get mail delivered to anybody. If it is really easy to sign up with no identification and the service is free/etc, then it is going to be almost impossible to keep spammers from abusing the service. If somebody is offering a free SMTP relay service I'd be surprised if it has a poor reputation and the reality is that your mail is all ending up in spam folders, if it gets delivered at all. There are tons of services that are relatively inexpensive. They're all going to make you pay by credit card and such so that it isn't trivial to just burn through accounts. They'll have a TOS they're going to hold you to as well. I found Amazon SES really easy to set up, and it can work just fine as an SMTP relay, but with the caveat that they only want you sending mail "From" your own domains (and they're going to check that you control those domains). They also have some limits on volume that you need to contact them to raise. I have no idea what that involves. I suspect it mostly involves somebody just making sure you seem to run some kind of legit service. Alas, all of this stuff is the price of spam. If somebody delivering mail doesn't keep their service clear of spam they're going to end up being blacklisted by the big service providers and they'll quickly go out of business. And that is why SMTP relay is generally not free. As long as you're legit it should be easy to set something up, just don't expect to do it for free, and obviously don't expect to be able to use it for spam... -- Rich