From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9A8181396D9 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 722342BC23A; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:40:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pg0-x22f.google.com (mail-pg0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c05::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BE6B2BC208 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 19:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pg0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id y5so12528685pgq.7 for ; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 12:40:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=s/3bpWlxRwjuwGXU54KO41NBadA8WrdoeX1SbpaU8uE=; b=KS+D1jmFnu0IamEwP+21Bw12QAWkhb05QJRLoZXcn1g7bhqup0akj865RAe9+THE4g wX+4blcW7l3rucQ91+/xtveg8hFLEQsnkOM3SdS0B/Bh7Sp7wceYOgs/mAefkBYzTHw5 LKm5t5nexYspb93cys7nHXTNe9iI80zLTYYpoHD6R9rJ6UZLasAFAmb/wJ4BjlekVvz5 LC5ws189F81Z6XuTnKKJ9enZm1JQ8B1La5Al8S5YJpJ2gE0vZJ4lzO1yk4yCX0yGgpaN W9Z02QUahlEous6c6qdhrD9GTq84A0y5zrqfLWygmonANFJXykvIdqQovLnyYONOzp+z Io8w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=s/3bpWlxRwjuwGXU54KO41NBadA8WrdoeX1SbpaU8uE=; b=nzqJir7D3LVplv4SIX6rAJ+ZaLl3yxFSWYXhuKo2es7H/V5qm3fPJsWIAoizAoYxwV Qdlpdc/6+m3kOhvkor1XNfT8scJeFyKnGtpM2Nh+aedH+v66T8ImSuvXY+TFCf/9v7dG TS5EV2CdBMliZ2O6lpomkqVzPVr7zvF39wXGWMgOf0lbHdDv1jPrCZQH5celmP1tRnTr AHItkLkIEPW9M5Cnqt+4VJzKc6aM2YJCpJLwsoAGVeewOqoQv2mxWXIBcsVWepmngT7Z MfhLGsJ04rHN/+OMkULdtbXXOHTUnijXEK+6sfFAdgLCtyoRtXxxv+PtNZjIi6w4sF2b lDBA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaVSqD+1ZJcAuPqP7lDTj1qaDAlsacXuIxoYj6nR5OoL7AjBlb0H eqs6/NIWy/VJs7mpeKQqWXGIRjQEgEz0H+d5K9Xx1Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABhQp+SSJeXyO1vuz2YRIQKx8MqG+HVAtVWjP56T4TFjbdQdU7H86IbdCHLPt2SEcsBFnFj0DP+knkCNia4i++S6wnU= X-Received: by 10.99.95.205 with SMTP id t196mr8966155pgb.442.1509392446586; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 12:40:46 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.100.155.67 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Oct 2017 12:40:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1922379.ZbMImBqxyj@dell_xps> <71878972.4tTIccPE0R@dell_xps> <514fb8df-3d93-7368-963b-41dcb08762ce@gmail.com> <2704889.g4SM65V9YC@dell_xps> From: Rich Freeman Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2017 15:40:45 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: ZqX5R4xkhJE-lt6CVcVruSMixnQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to knutclient To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 1b37696b-2f19-49bc-be27-b6ca1cd8a1e9 X-Archives-Hash: 2f72dd1ba7b532100de0a157dab377f2 On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > > I did some looking around (I had an APC) and all the APC branded crap you > get in the stores are cheaper, inferior options. I found out the BX-prefixed > models don't even have proper AVR (they only correct when the voltage drops > below a certain point, they don't do anything in an overvoltage situation. > The BR-prefixed models are like the old UPS of lore, they offer true AVR for > both undervolt and overvolt situations, and the one I have even has an > option for an extra battery pack for extended runtime (BR1500G.) > > Basically anything in Best Buy, Staples, or similar stores is guaranteed to > have the consumer BX model junk. > This is my experience as well. I went with a Cyberpower CP1500PFC and have been very happy with it, and I think it falls into the better-quality level of stuff (though I'm sure the server-oriented stuff is better still if you're willing to pay). I have no idea how long the battery will last but when it dies I'll probably replace it. The stuff sold in stores tends to be junk. -- Rich