From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E21EA139084 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 12:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A7F4C21C072; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 12:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qk0-x242.google.com (mail-qk0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48C1DE0BB2 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 12:16:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk0-x242.google.com with SMTP id t184so2636376qkd.1 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 04:16:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=yS/cyXRY0CbS0x8A/Q5brTsJaMhhPX39uX95jOsn6rA=; b=C3O948h8vfjsv9dUdWiuHD/1TwPsCQlcUn2ZVw7MbWK9jLpset2Y2eFgetksrKkK3k iRIU79AzhsQ8eiXXt3bsJ0Re5ZRhCHsu487Z41vnUaOFIKRgId4VoK0QEndOtZJk4ui2 nSgkBhehf7Qwgy10M27PQ9y42QEsn+1DMu2zBhQVHwuXCEEMR3YHgqH/4NVTuVe+KIxx fjhoBaEwjAmKGXc6096lia8sc3A4UbvuM/QRDfMncKoRMyi8jYZPv3QamTFO6I2wYC8h w0ZRqQohhWGsgaxEqtYORf+tyLr76l/x0jSU9R3myHo9DL8L9FfJBGoRWd4DQ2RFdIqc A+pw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=yS/cyXRY0CbS0x8A/Q5brTsJaMhhPX39uX95jOsn6rA=; b=qdjFEf6Mfe1bWzOtwrveNqaNyrhCIASoYrE2h9P/TOY5g1dHf2Vqi/5EraOONtJo8l JTkvwV8iEyxjbYyC0qF8p+vhjB/08vonXPhkGu4CqVGyd79778ZICfH2cIbzyroIDmC+ WDmyBCJZMrIH+pcLjIBGOjgNd1TrlH5+RZG+xA2WjNV/3bhGAQuCudnIS/UI1BDU4Cv1 FYT6407XN7VI2lUhtrbmBuyPX4ghzqpRTYVqKLnTtDYbaSMW1nBv3OAYiJ8m5z4Qot5r wgk5abOeEDksXXwlL8/WonGar3iZkUJhhiu1gb+2RfRzjv+TAvU9blmsEmKDo0hVjD9V PW6w== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXI6cTBP92HOGCAyKjX3LCEPjQ32YB9O3s/cPLSzVoFOkwpe6xBuT8SmJF+ggs6HVEb6x2Y15l2LT8/Brg== X-Received: by 10.233.239.194 with SMTP id d185mr2152228qkg.122.1481890570217; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 04:16:10 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.34.73 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 04:16:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20161216101951.GA29887@g0n.xdwgrp> References: <20161015182743.GB4541@solfire> <20161216101951.GA29887@g0n.xdwgrp> From: Rich Freeman Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 07:16:09 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: R7TD5WDcVHPofpGjhS1CyZ32U3o Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: bdd6e3d9-7a30-4477-97f1-3cddb7b6d96f X-Archives-Hash: 83395c78e6b07415c3a9bf3e3c3996db On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 5:19 AM, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > In my stron opinion, and opinions are allowed in Gentoo, just not > imposing your opinion onto others (and that I am not doing, feel free > to disagree!), pulseadio is spyware, read more here: > > Re: [Alsa-user] sans-pulseaudio Firefox? was: a strange thing > https://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg31928.html > What exactly about Pulseaudio do you think makes it "spyware?" The fact that it supports remote connections? I hope you're not using X11... Obviously you do need to use a secure configuration so that random hosts aren't tapping your microphone, but it would be news to me if this was allowed in the default configuration (and certainly a bug that should be fixed on Gentoo). I never bothered to migrate to pulseaudio for years, but started having random issues when logging into multiple X11 sessions from multiple users (probably a console permissions thing). Moving to pulse fixed that, and was surprisingly simple. While many probably don't need its features it makes a lot of sense to me... -- Rich