From: Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ?
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 17:20:11 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGfcS_=we+kk4i+tV6jwVi+K=6GNe3-N2N8baigDY5ndrbp_5w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5470DBF5.1060304@gentoo.org>
On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 1:54 PM, hasufell <hasufell@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> No one would care in such a distributed model if there is one person
> blocking progress somewhere. They would just move on, regroup around a
> new overlay and start working there and let that guy/project rot forever.
>
Nobody can block progress under the current model. If you feel
otherwise, please point them out so that they can be dealt with.
I'm fine with having more support for overlays/etc, but I don't think
it is as easy as you're making it out to be.
>
> We don't need more authority, we need less... and we need more actual
> opensource workflow. Our tools, our organizational model and our
> workflow are ALL ancient. And they don't seem to work very well, do they?
Gentoo is already fairly non-authoritative where the main tree is
concerned. I'm all for more overlay support, but I doubt it is going
to fix the kinds of issues you're bringing up.
The problem with java is that nobody wants to work on it. Lots of
people want to talk about working on it, but nobody is writing
ebuilds.
The problem with games is that nobody wants to work on those either.
Lots of people like to talk about the games project blocking progress,
but now that this has been eliminated, there isn't some flood of new
games ebuilds.
People love to talk about elitist old-timers blocking progress, but it
seems to me that many of the old-timers don't do a whole lot of
anything. I think the complaint is really that other people aren't
doing the work we want them to do.
--
Rich
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-11-22 22:20 UTC|newest]
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2014-11-22 18:12 ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ? wireless
2014-11-22 17:56 ` Rich Freeman
2014-12-26 2:13 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-11-22 18:54 ` hasufell
2014-11-22 22:20 ` Rich Freeman [this message]
2014-11-22 22:44 ` hasufell
2014-11-22 23:20 ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-23 15:18 ` [gentoo-user] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2014-11-23 15:31 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-11-23 17:33 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2014-11-23 18:25 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-11-23 18:54 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2014-11-23 19:15 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-11-23 21:03 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2014-11-23 19:30 ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-23 20:54 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2014-11-23 21:04 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-11-23 21:14 ` Alan McKinnon
2014-11-23 23:02 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2014-11-23 22:50 ` [gentoo-user] " hasufell
2014-11-23 23:24 ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-23 23:45 ` hasufell
2014-11-24 0:10 ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-24 18:13 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2014-11-25 19:29 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2014-12-26 2:55 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-11-24 0:12 ` [gentoo-user] " hasufell
2014-11-24 0:30 ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-24 8:20 ` Sid S
2014-11-24 12:41 ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-24 15:06 ` Sid S
2014-12-26 2:51 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-12-26 2:40 ` Tom Wijsman
2014-11-26 15:21 ` thegeezer
2014-11-26 15:52 ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-26 17:29 ` hasufell
2014-11-26 18:04 ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-26 18:49 ` hasufell
2014-11-27 12:00 ` [gentoo-user] " James
2014-11-28 16:56 ` hasufell
2014-11-28 20:10 ` James
2014-11-26 20:28 ` [gentoo-user] " konsolebox
2014-11-26 20:39 ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-26 21:58 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2014-11-26 23:43 ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-27 1:51 ` Paige Thompson
2014-11-27 2:03 ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-27 2:17 ` Paige Thompson
2014-11-27 3:01 ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-27 4:08 ` hasufell
2014-11-27 9:18 ` [gentoo-user] " Martin Vaeth
2014-11-28 16:36 ` hasufell
2014-11-29 7:09 ` Martin Vaeth
2014-11-29 11:34 ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2014-11-29 14:28 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-29 15:18 ` konsolebox
2014-11-29 16:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2014-11-29 17:21 ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2014-11-29 19:38 ` hasufell
2014-12-02 21:03 ` Sid S
2014-12-02 21:11 ` Rich Freeman
2014-12-03 19:28 ` Sid S
2014-11-27 2:24 ` [gentoo-user] " Paige Thompson
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2014-11-22 19:59 ` wireless
2014-11-22 20:29 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
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2014-11-22 0:13 ` wireless
2014-11-22 6:13 ` Rich Freeman
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2014-11-21 22:40 ` wireless
2014-11-21 22:01 ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-21 17:34 James
2014-11-21 17:57 ` Michael Brinkman
2014-11-21 18:14 ` Rich Freeman
2014-11-21 18:53 ` Paige Thompson
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