From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 65EDD1382C5 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 03:30:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8A4DE0B17; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 03:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pf0-x243.google.com (mail-pf0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c00::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 41E7DE0AC8 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2018 03:30:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pf0-x243.google.com with SMTP id b62so2804485pfk.10 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2018 19:30:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=LxIK9ureW8B7lOXU0BRoYACawL1NQELCl/ONdeclU8A=; b=UGGaykFb6a0aMRvo1PKUNX0a0JTVLEhbxHvju9pLouy5nI6fqG0nenRcN4wdI9Pklk XBeZ8OW2ALUhELoGhTPNPRkjBhNC6ifEjpWCUXselr7eKgiE645wB6ZLBRAov4wMZ+uh xIXyfJD6AcNoXdZx3Y6C3ZcBUWV9Y53P54Um5ZrQaGVtYpUw9qu9p9dnyUIpx1ORcAkA HsN4FIYc1N3T/fAELuzumFmlIHlhOygxeGVmqbjNZ6pbASrRwwEBNVYixxB5Nbyl9ZFe mAd0vxQTsKGXjSv4vPf8JmJEHv1KDNO/fF98LNiGFC5uwVheYqz/aOG9+n0N1XmTXNvj 51Rw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=LxIK9ureW8B7lOXU0BRoYACawL1NQELCl/ONdeclU8A=; b=Rleatm38pFzI7u4KM8JaZlvNNIAxTDXmdlRlLq3qMe30F0DjmbL64rWHWAQZRCqWfG gDV2ivruYqlkz76n/TQLl/ZVGibrRoMhq68mw+fVXrMTcCFE4lIpiKl0b4lXW4yIElHU hdTWl+pJv8n1iNt2ZErtb5tzWqN9rFasJQ1BH+Fjo0bmTOkFpcCbDXz+a6MU3WxE50WE EKHFhuj4h6DxS1YjgU76V5pwa57acEro6mStHAAmXJApBttIkvlJsDoCuHRS90iWI9Vx umjICCw8HGqn0xyYh41YhKd+szhg8y8YuOLXYyrU7mQncbVU/0Fel9PZJyC4YHAJCYOj tmmQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APf1xPBh7/dDImQOlvUosbV9bDYIO8uoqGoP3UqrwSaKswtRLndcta7P JUR/vJy7EKu1eLNs1b941klKc+ccA4ZcDn55Pe4LTQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x227TJn9/P8JHiTUnwj4URsvi25k6I9QTyIWtBCFIJj6NCr0rGjkcMHSXXl/VW5nueO1vU3Q0CxV+T0fh6oDsvL4= X-Received: by 10.98.72.206 with SMTP id q75mr7674236pfi.219.1518319826936; Sat, 10 Feb 2018 19:30:26 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.100.134.1 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Feb 2018 19:30:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87o9kw2pq7.fsf@nyu.edu> References: <87wozk2xfj.fsf@nyu.edu> <87o9kw2pq7.fsf@nyu.edu> From: Rich Freeman Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2018 22:30:26 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LlecTMY2ORYpVoy_G6wpmgJ5sEg Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] "systemd sysv-utils blocker resolution" To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 030879c3-0013-498a-abb7-d1f3e41b9f5c X-Archives-Hash: 11cb29ade64f0f0ef1007fc1a25dcc19 On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 10:02 PM, allan gottlieb wrote: > On Sat, Feb 10 2018, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> >> Interesting. Does /sbin/reboot exist? > > gottlieb@E6430 ~ $ ls -l /sbin/reboot > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 Jan 28 13:08 /sbin/reboot -> ../bin/systemctl > >> What does "qfile /sbin/reboot" return? > > gottlieb@E6430 ~ $ qfile /sbin/reboot > sys-apps/systemd (/sbin/reboot) Ok, your systemd is built with USE=sysv-utils. >> Ultimately it comes down to whether you care about the compatibility >> symlinks. It probably isn't a bad idea to have them though. Maybe >> some day you'll install a UPS and its shutdown scripts will just call >> shutdown/poweroff/etc and not work. Software that shuts down using >> either systemctl or dbus would be fine. > > Since you lean toward having the symlinks, why is the new default for > the use flag on? Upstream? When the flag is on the symlinks are created. They're only missing (from systemd) when the flag is off. > Also why do I have the symlinks with the 236-r5 system, contracting the > news item. (This is true for both machines.) You have them because the default is USE=sysv-utils, which installs the symlinks. The real question is why euse didn't show you has having the flag enabled. That I'm not sure about. It shows it as enabled on my system. I'd have to dig into where it is getting its data and how this might get out of sync. To avoid a second email - a lack of depcleaning might explain why software like openrc/netifrc is still installed. I don't believe it has anything to do with the output of euse. -- Rich