From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D9B138A6C for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2014 03:47:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E673E0928; Mon, 3 Nov 2014 03:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-f43.google.com (mail-qa0-f43.google.com [209.85.216.43]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E10B2E07FE for ; Mon, 3 Nov 2014 03:47:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id j7so7744921qaq.16 for ; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 19:47:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=IoMqDjZTplr9tQANbV3eFwHNVXp+PvEzHESNMI92k4Q=; b=jtYSNvX9m96Tprbj5Ab5wQ9NgpNtDZfUqhpBnyFs9XxUnQ9KKBT7yRfojdshFDbWzb WXqT0gtUDw5ATGq+3haCe8SIveKERitZ298TwXoq/cWrqKy7Tia9tWWGwzaT0uCxh8QP b0tWXIMPZw6Ibihz05mREn7JqjP2e3Uq7Ztz5bOk2ZBmAMxfOiNhclyU4y0lieP4Optj 2NlcaMZ3PRpXnE8mIXvnm1jUiXe+M+PO7MI9cNuzcDYfmU0lHe9wuGyfFbCmTdSPbJin QrWSk+5ATynpfpkGO/zsX0d/j63wrEhbHQTwIL+mfBHzw5ciQNrduIX8UaUNaGVX/sg6 FOBQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.82.144 with SMTP id h16mr56123560qgd.40.1414986439990; Sun, 02 Nov 2014 19:47:19 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.102.198 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Nov 2014 19:47:19 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2014 22:47:19 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9Fjw2X6UjZ6nnKSho_-0dz5-bYE Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [~amd64] NFS server broken again :( From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: ee491e3a-3e7e-42de-8003-5b854362895e X-Archives-Hash: 2b05aa9b098845d7397ff48930b0483e On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Tom H wrote: > > AIUI, "After=network.target" (and similarly "After=syslog.target") is > equivalent to having "Wants=network.service NetworkManager.service > " and "After=network.service > NetworkManager.service ". Actually, as far as I understand things, if you don't enable something that wants network.target, then you won't get it. You need to enable something like dhcpcd or networkd to get it. It works this way so that every package that needs the network doesn't try to run every network manager you have installed as many are mutually exclusive. Presumably if you don't run one of those services and start sshd, it will just end up listening on localhost (I assume something sets up the lo interface even if a network manager isn't running). -- Rich