From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38253139084 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 03:11:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7ED65E0C8A; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 03:11:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qk0-x243.google.com (mail-qk0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c09::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D01CE0C5E for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 03:11:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk0-x243.google.com with SMTP id n204so13942949qke.2 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 19:11:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=kCkk9fcbclqJTMKSA/4yD4XE5C1x3ITFLoPrVcylEzA=; b=pqoh20JGtk2OQdEZonj99RksybpSbZC+DomFgx6R88n3fA78PMbcZYeHiIL0cLHBXK Wvxad9r0LafCtNwc6NQIKLpADDUJO6pkQn3+aScZLvwrsRZ5CVEbULyUtXbClMaP3C8o EwVyicQnqzHZZ3R1NURNm2J9vhky7qqA1cTbgBBg/gRlXJ+cSIJebaLV92SQJbMX71SU 6njBpseZDhUXNS971JykMjOk+BSRAKCMkgV2Vy9WipgqEQQDnb0Mr3fcrDSscvZgKqXV q+DRU6NQ4kwrPl4P25dKeW5dYypHJkV8SmkZUovgUCcsFa+j8pqwF59BmnkbvjeWSAHo 5KOw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=kCkk9fcbclqJTMKSA/4yD4XE5C1x3ITFLoPrVcylEzA=; b=i0Bu9HMhY9mZW1OfKQmupd1pCb+hAoHURR5gY3JfmoATxndhoDWOaT4fyGtXZB5uJR jFY0hcoDZ6DIUzBQktWM5P/KPhDM6dg+xCJS0LC6XgnGKar6vLdTOw9iH3oDvKudLKDm YbgyoA6awVkzIMtxqEFC3fBg625IbjF/8fiVp5hlf6E6Z+4HamYOkLmFuYpjcp13x5Si Gz88EIdc81QyE57/BXyFK30i5i+dJjK6MgtsgufJsQOenW3kYVusfMFsDc5IIC2d+rxS J9Ff611a9jAGqZeCy/7YYVz3T71782FeR2bP0Mant3wpmrG4r9sjp7Y9m77db6oI09Zc wYlw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJaGXAEaiMpDC5y4Jcs4/5wtdufEU74eNsn+q6wNkbietPyYvm5ZOyM5hnP0DIjqPZEDOO0eXTZVZns0g== X-Received: by 10.55.42.130 with SMTP id q2mr6329838qkq.164.1481944265114; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 19:11:05 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.140.34.73 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 19:11:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <463667c4-d2c3-f6cd-2b65-92db355cf576@gmx.com> References: <20161015182743.GB4541@solfire> <20161216101951.GA29887@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161216131315.GA4052@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161216165118.GA26704@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161216200653.25353.338C11D1@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> <20161216225032.4514.2AA56A2C@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> <463667c4-d2c3-f6cd-2b65-92db355cf576@gmx.com> From: Rich Freeman Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 22:11:04 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: xrhQbIWEvUl9JH2f2YI74YRc9ZI Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 434599d8-bddd-4d0f-af23-5fdaa2dd20d2 X-Archives-Hash: fd754171846937a1f3743e4e49d5a3b3 On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 9:04 PM, Taiidan@gmx.com wrote: > Thoughts: > Pulseaudio, ahavi, systemd, etc, any and all pottering products - it really > makes me wonder as to why the developers of every major distro suddenly all > at once forced them all a community that didn't want or need them, with no > easy way to disable them. > Maybe the developers found them useful? That's why I use those particular programs at least, and I actually had to go out of my way to install them on Gentoo... Or, maybe the developers of every major distro are all getting paid huge sums of money to sneak in back doors. Seems like it would be easier and less conspicuous to just pay them to put the back doors in the software they were already using. In any case, if this is the case please let me know where I can pick up my check. -- Rich