From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF254138824 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 23:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C210DE08D9; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 23:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BC45CE08B1 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 23:34:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id la4so2704830vcb.41 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:34:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=1cdjb4AwvRi0IbxpBY6y11Cno9oep70cRlgRd64CynI=; b=heXXfSEEa7fN+iLfdDvRmMvlc8a4N+8QmQc70lOIVZ9dvcSUAsxSA2ahu58EglwUr6 LTy7MiwAdeoEoEHl+t5jpzTbq5tpECd4gbE3jO1VzuNvhmqYtP4xvLK00RHCWs+GE3CK dloj0l4/T7OgtZ5TZXx9IhV0Yn8yuSe+xPG/RNjctlMiG49GYXUPq2oMBhfhaGQNaKGk oba7ucu+T3TwLvZswd16Db/kSFb4R0wcj6ZPMQOPe4DTuBOsyg4v6QLs2YgjTlGvZj81 BS9yrwMKHQR5kM72gerU3jQN9LAKr685PmNW+5eEvw6bKt0/OwO5sfBbu+bXYKE1fQyb wqiQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.89.146 with SMTP id bo18mr16656286vdb.37.1413761649898; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.8.229 with HTTP; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 16:34:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <544430E4.7050808@googlemail.com> References: <5442DAC8.2030106@thegeezer.net> <5442F17C.7040904@thegeezer.net> <5443A864.2030508@thegeezer.net> <544430E4.7050808@googlemail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:34:09 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: roRsxpSIXILC07bJJrxTqiij64o Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gigabyte mobo latency From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 2444bbef-9d69-4b02-ac4d-1cdf36397f18 X-Archives-Hash: c682cb91d890ee27cef170c37a0be284 On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 19.10.2014 um 20:56 schrieb Rich Freeman: >> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 12:41 PM, James wrote: >> As far as docs go - what specifically is unclear? Systemd is rapidly >> evolving so things do get out of date, but for the most part stuff >> like this can be found in man systemd.exec and such. Lennart's series >> of blog posts on system administration using systemd is a very good >> place to start. -- Rich > > and you are fine with that? That the package that becomes Pid1 is such > an unstable, ever involving mess that not even the docs are keeping up > with it? If I wasn't fine with it I'd hardly be running Gentoo. :) You just described half of the distro, though it isn't changing as rapidly as it used to. Most of the issues are in the init scripts, which technically aren't really part of systemd. It is fairly immature everywhere. If you want a really stable experience then you should probably stick with RHEL or Debian Stable. :) > > You just gave me another reason not to use systemd. > Sounds like you didn't really need one. It is a free country - you're no more required to run systemd than any Gentoo developer is required to fix openrc init scripts or systemd units... -- Rich