From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C778E138A1A for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 00:30:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 122F9E0AB4; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 00:30:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D644EE09CD for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 00:30:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id tr6so302938ieb.7 for ; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 16:30:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=oL1ifbl3KIKMmHA0PBjCp70Lrwna52Ygc4jyNcmYMtM=; b=Y6hovgF36lPqeHSh6Jx6JG9+ew9coXERgOLL2rJyEHp3sowFSgT8YqN9oxyUSbe/Bi yANHpVgBsMjgy2YcQIrVpW2oDHZjD630iJ/nM16JVIvViejAb+5ZCO7yeXnJUJ9hJiGh gMyrr1FlUff818cwMZ2QeZWLg0i/NTvN9HuRoMsWAt6NccH2OcRnQ866pz60VXFIZq7U 59bWouo/sSyu+W8CcbCOtWo8kxIAe5zIVKPryRu2XmwW/bRyGBwxFo2zZzWcatogheTW 00D/PkXmHkgscTq4PLfH5tlOKqQIB9PdtGmH99/vKBP0c8W+QPhf5P7FCRHSoO6tZliy /CoA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.157.134 with SMTP id lq6mr6619704icc.64.1416789047084; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 16:30:47 -0800 (PST) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.107.9.80 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Nov 2014 16:30:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54727804.5060205@gentoo.org> References: <5470D229.7000806@tampabay.rr.com> <5470DBF5.1060304@gentoo.org> <547111B5.2030909@gentoo.org> <547264C8.7030704@gentoo.org> <54727804.5060205@gentoo.org> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 19:30:46 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: -0duZke-fIPddzoLvKHjgMviyLg Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo's future directtion ? From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: 7f84e20b-82ff-4e87-9a5c-b591866646b3 X-Archives-Hash: 3952c717abebd47ec8d46ea7c0961872 On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 7:12 PM, hasufell wrote: > On 11/24/2014 12:24 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: >>> * kickban major assholes from the community, no matter how efficient >>> they are >> >> Proposals welcome. Hint, things will go much better if you volunteer >> to do the work the assholes are doing... It isn't like we aren't all >> tired of this stuff, but if we go booting half the devs then the >> distro will basically die. >> > > That's actually an argument FOR my proposal of being more distributed > and shrinking the dev community. > > In such a scenario we would not need 200 "gentoo developers" anymore. > Sure, but my point is that the way to fix this is: 1. Set up new distributed model. 2. Work in the new model successfully for a while. 3. Retire developers who are no longer needed since they won't be doing anything anyway. And not: 1. Stop recruiting new devs. 2. Watch attrition get rid of existing devs. 3. Work on new distributed model that may or may not ever take off. 4. Hope that Gentoo doesn't die in the meantime. -- Rich