From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 004191387FD for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 11:18:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 43455E08AA; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 11:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-f195.google.com (mail-ve0-f195.google.com [209.85.128.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 374F5E087F for ; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 11:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f195.google.com with SMTP id pa12so740329veb.6 for ; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 04:18:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=cRCEy0au8JmWlwYCSaJrvj095/n25304PzznCX3sdRE=; b=XMfudyRYZKh5X7q1/zV7acGiguUOYuM9yPOGvP+lugqibNt/y6I0yWsTLbpAWL+nOI oKSQAGHM4n1zgo53KWYn3ZGmvpw/H0BAyHjNesEfgayDH2hQWsmQv+TahLfLAMDeRawD c1nrdaGbtCunzZI6u1Qr5mXBkthgIhe5mClOPpE0yYHMizWclKSVOp9bqPKKM4D+530S CwDH+kzzTz2fL7FAuGF03D0+VaQkpoQDg9oNUlocyoJEaJoHnr8wKOIRqNZ9+vbdHBx4 cOyUOdKlavV1KiI7NTgOS8I1QtOHQQU47bn43QJfgvISfjCzYNOMPsKkVia5ld87eCe6 Nz3Q== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.123.71 with SMTP id ly7mr4037689veb.11.1402053489286; Fri, 06 Jun 2014 04:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Sender: freemanrich@gmail.com Received: by 10.52.30.227 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Jun 2014 04:18:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201406060646.36897.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> References: <20140603161406.0400709b5f38540475ac4c1f@web.de> <201406051359.00283.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <1988972.gctSnrGOjC@wstn> <201406060646.36897.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 07:18:09 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0GNGq7oZqRtmB2KhCkysGzNG1Pc Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower From: Rich Freeman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Archives-Salt: ee8c931b-6631-497f-bef8-4e7ba050c966 X-Archives-Hash: 38e8922f236660ad10993a7a808c9c50 On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Mick wrote: > On Friday 06 Jun 2014 00:15:02 Peter Humphrey wrote: >> >> I bet you have quite a lot of systemd components lurking in the background >> though, ready to take over the world the next time you aren't looking :-) > > Ha! I can already see this one: > > 338 ? Ss 0:00 /lib/systemd/systemd-udevd --daemon > > I have set USE="-systemd", but if/when Gentoo migrates to systemd as the > default startup I will probably have to remove it and then learn how to use > systemd. That would be udev. It has been around long before systemd, and you must have missed the huge flamewar when they renamed it to systemd-udevd. Maybe we'll see "java" renamed to "java-by-oracle-with-ask-toolbar" next. :) If you ever migrate to systemd you really just need to set USE=systemd and install systemd. Portage will swap out your udev in the process, though nothing there will really change as systemd and udev install the same udev components. There is a guide for installing systemd that you should follow which gets into all the details. Rich