From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9C821381F3 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 571BEE0B42; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f52.google.com (mail-la0-f52.google.com [209.85.215.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E1E8E0A04 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:11:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id fd20so3805829lab.11 for ; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:11:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ZyKuB9S17Rk1JkrCtZjYYkIzHj2m1jF1o1F+bnFNJKI=; b=OSIw87rtUv8AdMQ3bpI2z8qRXaoMfPwP4F4uARSU75EF5c8islyM0nXvmDkibDWHxH hpW9fmVANgs68DxiPjlVCms0+MT7XCCt5PjDm9Mr0EnNqFlIKAVFUHbNRGl19T7h1WLT 1U2OnmmQwDGbxFxVG7XZn5SrcHCLknUbUH5U9dBOUwuPvYqG2y8Ntgnbxejt20uB6T9G Rg+MnVkw+P8wBj/oWZAmEHE6uuz/EX2M6/kZQSQ4R9bjTuP6FG7c21bijb29gbLPDhgF n3k+1Hd+QapXj+1W/UCs8XTvHKyQevk94YLh3twQ5LE8p6yk0ActO7coSgENJ4YelxEH E2Vw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.59.129 with SMTP id z1mr22302907lbq.27.1366996260335; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:11:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.48.40 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Apr 2013 10:11:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <517AAEF4.1090108@gmail.com> References: <20130426141011.GH24932@syscon7.inet> <517A949D.6030800@gmail.com> <517AA020.2070805@gmail.com> <517AAEF4.1090108@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 13:11:00 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion From: Nick Khamis To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 335fe726-75e7-4d86-82cd-afc6dbe485a0 X-Archives-Hash: cfe0c3d487feb6211ebd5d18d09f8e25 On 4/26/13, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 26/04/2013 17:54, Nick Khamis wrote: >> On 4/26/13, Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> On 26/04/2013 17:27, Nick Khamis wrote: >>>> Hello Everyone, >>>> >>>> Thank you for the many solutions however, I am totally lost as to which >>>> would >>>> be most reliable in a collocation setting vs. office desktop. What we >>>> would like >>>> is to set up our own ntp server which other servers and desktops in our >>>> office >>>> syncs to. Is this advised? If so, is there a nice tutorial online? >>> >>> The subject of time is vastly more complex than anyone ever thinks at >>> first look. Time servers are tiered and are themselves both clients and >>> servers... >>> >>> So here's what you do: sync everything to your ISP's time servers. >>> Chances are good they do a better job than you can, just like with DNS >>> caching. >>> >>> When you know more about the subject than you do now, you can venture >>> into rolling your own. I'm not being rude or funny - time servers are >>> just one of those things that unless you have special needs and LOTS of >>> cash, it is so much easier to just let someone else do all the heavy >>> lifting. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Alan McKinnon >>> alan.mckinnon@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> Hello Alan, >> >> Thank you so much for your response, and I totally understand the >> effort vs. benefit challenge. However, is it really that much >> trouble/unstable to setup our own ntp >> server that syncs with our local isp, and have our internal network sync >> on it? > > > No, it's not THAT much effort. You can get by with installing ntpd on a > single machine, pointing it at the upstream time server and pointing all > your clients to it. It's clearly recorded in the config file, you can't > go wrong. > > It's understanding how this weird thing called time works that is the > issue. Take for example leap seconds..... urggggggggggg... > > The basic question I suppose is why do you want to do it this way? What > do you feel you will gain by doing it yourself? > > > -- > Alan McKinnon > alan.mckinnon@gmail.com > > > Hello Alan, Thank you so much for your time. Our voip cluster time always vary for some reason.... And with long distance, that could mean upwards to a dollar a call. N.