UN-subscribe -- Digest of gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:06 AM, wrote: > Topics (messages 138328 through 138377): > > [gentoo-user] Re: mplayer2 idle CPU condumption > 138328 - Alex Schuster > > [gentoo-user] Socks-ifying an application > 138329 - Mick > > [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: solving curl dependency issues > 138330 - Space Cake > > [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of] > 138331 - Alex Schuster > > [gentoo-user] HP A8 laptop install > 138332 - Hinnerk van Bruinehsen > > [gentoo-user] Encfs suddenly read-only -- DISK FAILURE > 138333 - felix@crowfix.com > > [gentoo-user] Socks-ifying an application > 138334 - Alan McKinnon > > [gentoo-user] Socks-ifying an application > 138335 - Mick > > [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails > 138336 - john > > [gentoo-user] Advice Needed: Conexant HD-Audio noisy audio > 138337 - Ignas Anikevicius > > [gentoo-user] Advice Needed: Conexant HD-Audio noisy audio > 138338 - Alecks Gates > > [gentoo-user] Advice Needed: Conexant HD-Audio noisy audio > 138339 - Ignas Anikevicius > > [gentoo-user] Advice Needed: Conexant HD-Audio noisy audio > 138340 - Michael Mol > > [gentoo-user] OT: Hack your TV > 138341 - James > > [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails > 138342 - Mark Knecht > > [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails > 138343 - Dale > > [gentoo-user] Advice Needed: Conexant HD-Audio noisy audio > 138344 - Ignas Anikevicius > > [gentoo-user] Advice Needed: Conexant HD-Audio noisy audio > 138345 - Michael Mol > > [gentoo-user] Advice Needed: Conexant HD-Audio noisy audio > 138346 - Mark Knecht > > [gentoo-user] Advice Needed: Conexant HD-Audio noisy audio > 138347 - Ignas Anikevicius > > [gentoo-user] Advice Needed: Conexant HD-Audio noisy audio > 138348 - Michael Mol > > [gentoo-user] Socks-ifying an application > 138349 - Alan McKinnon > > [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails > 138350 - Alan McKinnon > > [gentoo-user] HP A8 laptop install > 138351 - Alex Schuster > > [gentoo-user] Socks-ifying an application > 138352 - Mick > > [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails > 138353 - Peter Humphrey > > [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together > 138354 - Urs Schutz > > [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together > 138355 - Philip Webb > > [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails > 138356 - Pandu Poluan > > [gentoo-user] Grub2, chroot, initramfs > 138357 - Paul Hartman > > [gentoo-user] Grub2, chroot, initramfs > 138358 - Hilco Wijbenga > > [gentoo-user] Grub2, chroot, initramfs > 138359 - Paul Hartman > > [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together > 138360 - Philip Webb > > [gentoo-user] Grub2, chroot, initramfs > 138361 - Hinnerk van Bruinehsen > > [gentoo-user] Runlevels, ordering initscripts and running them in > background > 138362 - Ignas Anikevicius > > [gentoo-user] Socks-ifying an application > 138363 - Mick > > [gentoo-user] Runlevels, ordering initscripts and running them in > background > 138364 - Canek Peláez Valdés > > [gentoo-user] Runlevels, ordering initscripts and running them in > background > 138365 - Dale > > [gentoo-user] Re: Runlevels, ordering initscripts and running them in > background > 138366 - walt > > [gentoo-user] gem install linecache19 fails > 138367 - 1126 > > [gentoo-user] Runlevels, ordering initscripts and running them in > background > 138368 - Neil Bothwick > > [gentoo-user] Runlevels, ordering initscripts and running them in > background > 138369 - Ignas Anikevicius > > [gentoo-user] Runlevels, ordering initscripts and running them in > background > 138370 - Ignas Anikevicius > > [gentoo-user] ffmpeg and libav > 138371 - john > > [gentoo-user] ffmpeg and libav > 138372 - Alan McKinnon > > [gentoo-user] In X: wants to "save screenshot". How do I stop this? > 138373 - Alan Mackenzie > > [gentoo-user] In X: wants to "save screenshot". How do I stop this? > 138374 - Paul Hartman > > [gentoo-user] Re: In X: wants to "save screenshot". How do I stop > this? > 138375 - walt > > [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together > 138376 - Urs Schutz > > [gentoo-user] Re: In X: wants to "save screenshot". How do I stop > this? > 138377 - "G.Wolfe Woodbury" > > > > Alex Schuster writes: > > > I wrote: > > > > Thanks. Another thing that happens to me only. I filed a bug about > > > this: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=415241 > > > > I just found out it only happens when I start the video from within > > Dolphin, and as my user. From the command line, or as another user with > > an unconfigured KDE desktop, it does not happen. Something is very weird > > here. Maybe I should start over with a clean KDE environment, AGAIN. But > > I really really hate to do this every once in a while. Can't these > > things just work? > > The bug report got some updates, it's not Dolphin's or KDE's fault, but > mplayer2's, happens whenever it is started from a file manager. Something > with terminal keyboard controls enabled by the file manager, but with > stdin not being connected to anything readable. > > It's fixed upstream: http://devel.mplayer2.org/ticket/146 > Meanwhile, option -noconsolecontrols also helps. > > Wonko > > I am not sure what I am doing wrong, but I can't seem to be able to get > tsocks, or proxychains working. > > I set up a socks server virtue of ssh dynamic port forwarding: > > $ ssh -D localhost:12465 root@10.10.10.12 > > Then I run: > > $ . tsocks on > $ tsocks sh > LD_PRELOAD="/lib/libtsocks.so" > $ tsocks firefox > > or tsocks kmail, or tsocks . > > The connection is not sent out via the server on 10.10.10.12. The terminal > that ran tsocks does not reveal anything in terms of a connection taking > place, at least not when I run firefox. With Chromium things are more > revealing: > > $ . tsocks on > $ tsocks sh > LD_PRELOAD="/lib/libtsocks.so" > $ tsocks chromium > [4591:4604:405018909:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(239)] Failed to call > method: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files > ERROR: ld.so: object '/lib/libtsocks.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be > preloaded: ignored. > > > Exporting like this, also fails to load it for chromium: > > $ export LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libtsocks.so > $ tsocks sh > LD_PRELOAD="/lib/libtsocks.so" > $ tsocks chromium > [5052:5065:973215173:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(239)] Failed to call > method: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files > ERROR: ld.so: object '/lib/libtsocks.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be > preloaded: ignored. > > > > If I set up socks within the firefox application Advanced/Network > settings, without using tsocks, the connection succeeds through the > ssh tunnel. Therefore I am confident that the tunnel itself is > working as a socks5 server. > > > This is what I have in /etc/socks/tsocks.conf > > server = 127.0.0.1 > server_type = 5 > server_port = 12465 > > Similarly, I get no connection if I use proxychains. > > Any idea what I am doing wrong here? > > -- > Regards, > Mick > > Thank you. It seems to be ok now > > [ebuild R ~] net-misc/curl-7.25.0-r1 CURL_SSL="gnutls* -openssl*" > [ebuild R ~] net-libs/liboauth-0.9.6 USE="-curl*" > > >=net-misc/curl-7.24.0 -curl_ssl_nss -curl_ssl_openssl curl_ssl_gnutls ssl > -nss ssh > > > Laszlo > > > On 2012. máj. 14., hétfő, 17.34.19 CEST, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> >> On Mon, 14 May 2012 16:02:15 +0200 >> Space Cake wrote: >> >> >>> Removing keywords from curl produces this >>> >>> brutal keywords # emerge --keep-going -upND world >>> >>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order: >>> >>> Calculating dependencies... done! >>> >>> emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy >>> "net-misc/curl[ssl,curl_ssl_**nss]". >>> !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your >>> request: >>> - net-misc/curl-7.25.0-r1::**gentoo (Change USE: +curl_ssl_nss, this >>> change violates use flag constraints defined by >>> net-misc/curl-7.25.0-r1: 'threads? ( !ares ) ssl? ( exactly-one-of ( >>> curl_ssl_axtls curl_ssl_cyassl curl_ssl_gnutls curl_ssl_openssl >>> curl_ssl_nss curl_ssl_polarssl ) )') >>> (dependency required by >>> "net-libs/liboauth-0.9.6[curl,**nss]" [installed]) (dependency required >>> by >>> "gnome-extra/evolution-data-**server-3.2.3-r1[gnome-online-**accounts]" >>> [installed]) >>> (dependency required by >>> "gnome-extra/gnome-contacts-3.**2.2" [installed]) (dependency required >>> by "@selected" [set]) (dependency required by "@world" [argument]) >>> >>> >>> eix output:[I] net-misc/curl >>> Available versions: 7.21.4 (~)7.21.6 (~)7.21.7 (~)7.21.7-r2 >>> (~)7.22.0 (~)7.23.1 7.24.0 (~)7.25.0 (~)7.25.0-r1 {ares >>> curl_ssl_axtls curl_ssl_cyassl curl_ssl_gnutls curl_ssl_nss >>> +curl_ssl_openssl curl_ssl_polarssl gnutls idn ipv6 kerberos ldap nss >>> ssh ssl static-libs test threads} >>> Installed versions: 7.25.0-r1(12.34.47 >>> 2012-05-14)(curl_ssl_openssl idn ipv6 ldap ssh ssl threads -ares >>> -curl_ssl_axtls -curl_ssl_cyassl -curl_ssl_gnutls -curl_ssl_nss >>> -curl_ssl_polarssl -kerberos -static-libs -test) >>> Homepage: http://curl.haxx.se/ >>> Description: A Client that groks URLs >>> >>> >>> So, this is asking for curl_ssl_nss, >>> >>> But after I set this I'm getting this >>> >>> brutal ~ # emerge --keep-going -upND world >>> >>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order: >>> >>> Calculating dependencies / >>> >>> !!! Problem resolving dependencies for net-misc/curl from @selected >>> ... done! >>> >>> !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy "net-misc/curl" has unmet >>> requirements. >>> - net-misc/curl-7.25.0-r1::**gentoo USE="idn ipv6 ldap ssl threads >>> -ares -kerberos -ssh -static-libs -test" CURL_SSL="nss openssl -axtls >>> -cyassl -gnutls -polarssl" >>> >>> The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied: >>> ssl? ( exactly-one-of ( curl_ssl_axtls curl_ssl_cyassl >>> curl_ssl_gnutls curl_ssl_openssl curl_ssl_nss curl_ssl_polarssl ) ) >>> >>> The above constraints are a subset of the following complete >>> expression: >>> threads? ( !ares ) ssl? ( exactly-one-of ( curl_ssl_axtls >>> curl_ssl_cyassl curl_ssl_gnutls curl_ssl_openssl curl_ssl_nss >>> curl_ssl_polarssl ) ) >>> >>> (dependency required by "@selected" [set]) >>> (dependency required by "@world" [argument]) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2012. máj. 14., hétfő, 15.08.17 CEST, walt wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On 05/14/2012 03:49 AM, Space Cake wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> For several weeks I'm trying to solve dependency issues with curl, >>>>> but I'm lost.. any idea? >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> That problem drove me nuts for months. I finally discovered by >>>> desperate trial and error that un-setting the 'curl' useflag fixes >>>> it. Finally! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> The requirements are (from the error message): >> >> If USE=ssl then use exactly one of the following: >> curl_ssl_axtls >> curl_ssl_cyassl >> curl_ssl_gnutls >> curl_ssl_openssl >> curl_ssl_nss >> curl_ssl_polarssl >> >> You have the following set for curl (per eix): >> >> curl_ssl_openssl >> >> But the error message also says that this is required: >> net-misc/curl[ssl,curl_ssl_**nss] by liboauth >> >> You cannot have curl_ssl_nss and curl_ssl_openssl both set for curl as >> liboauth complains >> >> So, what you need to do is set >> >> USE="-curl_ssl_openssl curl_ssl_nss" for curl >> >> If you read my post carefully and see how all the bits fit the output >> you supplied, it all makes sense. Portage output is not exactly >> intuitive but it can be understood. >> >> Or you could unset USE="curl" for liboauth. >> >> I don't know if you'll be willing to switch from curl_ssl just to make >> liboauth happy. That's your call. >> > > > Paul Hartman writes: > > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Alex Schuster > > wrote: > > > Finally, I found something. It's Dolphin! > [...] > > > Now, would this be an MPlayer problem, or one of Dolphin? > > > > I wonder if Dolphin is generating thumbnails/preview indexes at the > > same time you're trying to play, causing resource contention. > > Sometimes it does that, but that would happen when I play from the command > line, too. And now it even works from Dolphin, when it is set to open > mplayer in a terminal. So this cannot be the problem. And even if it > were, avoiding thumbnails would be a bad workaround only, such operations > should not affect video playback. > > Maybe this is somehow related to the other problem I had with mplayer2 > only, using 100% CPU when idle, only when started from a file manager. > > Wonko > > On 15.05.2012 11:11, Alex Schuster wrote: > > Stroller writes: > > > >> I boot from a SystemRescueCD and follow the Gentoo quick install guide. > >> > >> This has never failed me. > > > > For me it did, half a year ago, several packages failed to build due to > > strange libtool errors. It took me some days until I found the solution: > > unset path. > > > > Libtool uses this variable without unsetting it before, and > SystemRescueCD > > defines it as environment variable, which is still available in the > > chroot. This messed things up a lot. > > > > Apart from that, I really like SystemRescueCD. > > > > Wonko > > > > Did you do env-update && . /etc/profile after entering chroot? > I always thought that setting the right environment variables was the > purpose of that. > > I personally an Ubuntu-Live-Thumbdrive, because some time ago (2 years > or so) it wasn't possible to install gentoo with LUKS on a btrfs volume > from the gentoo minimal cd. > > The advantage of a live cd (especially for a beginner) is the > possibility to read the manual and google problems while installing. > Another possibility to do that would be an installation via ssh (works > nice too). > > > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 05:33:48AM -0700, felix@crowfix.com wrote: > > I have been using encfs to store most of my home dir for ages. I > rebooted Sunday morning (it's a ~amd64 system) to change kernel to 3.3.5 > from 3.3.4, and sometime overnight, after the nightly backups and mail > archives had run, the encfs mounted partition became read-only. I know the > timing only by the cron jobs; the nightly mail backup moves files from the > /home partition to the encfs partition, and it had not failed. I unmounted > the encfs partition, remounted, and it was read-only right from the get go. > > It's a failing disk drive: > > May 15 03:30:26 kernel: [80220.600747] hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { > DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > May 15 03:30:26 kernel: [80220.600759] hda: dma_intr: error=0x40 { > UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=94761183, sector=94761183 > May 15 03:30:26 kernel: [80220.600788] hda: possibly failed opcode: 0x25 > May 15 03:30:26 kernel: [80220.600794] end_request: I/O error, dev hda, > sector 94761183 > May 15 03:30:26 kernel: [80220.600835] REISERFS error (device hda5): > vs-13070 reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to find > stat data of [2511 633054 0x0 SD] > May 15 03:30:26 kernel: [80220.600840] REISERFS (device hda5): > Remounting filesystem read-only > May 15 03:30:31 kernel: [80224.859713] hda: dma_intr: status=0x51 { > DriveReady SeekComplete Error } > > > There are no errors in /var/log/messages of any sort since the 3.3.5 > boot. The mount command showed both the encfs partition and the underlying > regular partition as rw, not ro. > > I didn't see it the first time because I rebooted twice and only looked > since the second reboot, after spending a while googling for hints and > forgetting about the double reboot. > > -- > ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. > Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman & rocket surgeon / felix@crowfix.com > GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license > #4933 > I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of > room o > > On Tue, 15 May 2012 10:50:43 +0100 > Mick wrote: > > > I am not sure what I am doing wrong, but I can't seem to be able to > > get tsocks, or proxychains working. > > > > I set up a socks server virtue of ssh dynamic port forwarding: > > > > $ ssh -D localhost:12465 root@10.10.10.12 > > This part is fine. > > I tried the next part. It didn't work nicely for me. > > So what I do now is: > > Firefox + FoxyProxy > > and now I can set my proxy individually per site. All the internal work > stuff accessed from home goes through the proxy, except the three sites > only viewable from the outside; and everything else bypasses the proxy. > > Much better than trying to deal with a global proxy (although foxyproxy > will do that too if that is what you need. > > And dispense with all the tsocks stuff. > > I see recent KDE now also supports socks. This is a nice new addition > so konqueror can also use it. > > > > > > > > Then I run: > > > > $ . tsocks on > > $ tsocks sh > > LD_PRELOAD="/lib/libtsocks.so" > > $ tsocks firefox > > > > or tsocks kmail, or tsocks . > > > > The connection is not sent out via the server on 10.10.10.12. The > > terminal that ran tsocks does not reveal anything in terms of a > > connection taking place, at least not when I run firefox. With > > Chromium things are more revealing: > > > > $ . tsocks on > > $ tsocks sh > > LD_PRELOAD="/lib/libtsocks.so" > > $ tsocks chromium > > [4591:4604:405018909:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(239)] Failed to call > > method: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name > > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files > > ERROR: ld.so: object '/lib/libtsocks.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be > > preloaded: ignored. > > > > > > Exporting like this, also fails to load it for chromium: > > > > $ export LD_PRELOAD=/lib/libtsocks.so > > $ tsocks sh > > LD_PRELOAD="/lib/libtsocks.so" > > $ tsocks chromium > > [5052:5065:973215173:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(239)] Failed to call > > method: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name > > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files > > ERROR: ld.so: object '/lib/libtsocks.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be > > preloaded: ignored. > > > > > > > > If I set up socks within the firefox application Advanced/Network > > settings, without using tsocks, the connection succeeds through the > > ssh tunnel. Therefore I am confident that the tunnel itself is > > working as a socks5 server. > > > > > > This is what I have in /etc/socks/tsocks.conf > > > > server = 127.0.0.1 > > server_type = 5 > > server_port = 12465 > > > > Similarly, I get no connection if I use proxychains. > > > > Any idea what I am doing wrong here? > > > > > > -- > Alan McKinnnon > alan.mckinnon@gmail.com > > > On 15 May 2012 15:45, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Tue, 15 May 2012 10:50:43 +0100 > > Mick wrote: > > >> $ ssh -D localhost:12465 root@10.10.10.12 > > > > This part is fine. > > > > I tried the next part. It didn't work nicely for me. > > Ah, thanks for this! It's reassuring to know that it's not just my > system. :-) > > > > So what I do now is: > > > > Firefox + FoxyProxy > > Firefox is less of a problem for me because I can set it up to > socksify everything. It is Kmail that I am mostly interested in. > > > > I see recent KDE now also supports socks. This is a nice new addition > > so konqueror can also use it. > > Yes, but it does not work with the current stable kmail. The new > KDEPIM is such a nightmare I do not plan moving to it anytime soon. > It screwed up one box that I tried it on and that's enough for me. > :-( > > Did you have any success with proxychains? > > I am not sure if the problem is related to the tsocks LD_PRELOAD error. > > > I also noticed that when I try to set up a proxy server in Chromium > using the 'under the bonnet' tab, I get this: > > "When running Chromium under a supported desktop environment, the > system proxy settings will be used. However, either your system is not > supported or there was a problem while launching your system > configuration. > > But you can still configure via the command line. Please see man > chromium-browser for more information on flags and environment > variables." > > Trying the command line did not fix it: > > [4742:4753:1575546819:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(239)] Failed to call > method: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files > > That's what made me think that something on my system is not set up > properly. :-/ > > > These are the libtsocks.so files in my system: > > # ls -la /lib*/libtsocks.so > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 13 15:34 /lib/libtsocks.so -> libtsocks.so.1 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 13 15:34 /lib64/libtsocks.so -> > libtsocks.so.1 > > # ls -la /lib/libtsocks.so* > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 13 15:34 /lib/libtsocks.so -> > libtsocks.so.1 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 May 13 15:34 /lib/libtsocks.so.1 -> > libtsocks.so.1.8 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 42912 May 13 15:34 /lib/libtsocks.so.1.8 > > # ls -la /lib64/libtsocks.so* > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 13 15:34 /lib64/libtsocks.so -> > libtsocks.so.1 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 May 13 15:34 /lib64/libtsocks.so.1 -> > libtsocks.so.1.8 > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 42912 May 13 15:34 /lib64/libtsocks.so.1.8 > > I can't see why it would not load it, unless it should be trying to > load the '/lib64/libtsocks.so' instead of the '/lib/libtsocks.so' on > an amd64 system? Shall I file a bug? > -- > Regards, > Mick > > On Mon, 14 May 2012 19:46:39 -0500 > Dale wrote: > > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > On Mon, 14 May 2012 12:13:18 -0500 > > > Dale wrote: > > > > > >> For example: Alan, Mike, Pandu, Mark, Neil and me are the top > > >> posters on this list. > > > > > > Yo Dale, > > > > > > You might want to re-calibrate your stats engine :-) > > > > > > I've been quiet for a while (getting old...)[1] and fifty bucks says > > > Michael, Canek, Pandu and a couple more have all posted more than me > > > this year > > > > > > [1] Well, that's my story and I'm sticking with it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: > > > > http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml > > > > I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit tho. > > Someone put alum in your water or something? > > > > ROFL > > > > Dale > > > > :-) :-) > > > > Would like to thank all guys and girls for posting. Even though I post > very little myself your posts are always excellent and there is plenty > to learn from just reading them. > > There are things I can do now which I never thought possible. Thanks > > -- > John D Maunder > > Dear all, > > It's been quite a while since I noticed this annoying behaviour, but I > could not find any information what might cause this. So the problem is > that at lower volumes my HD-Audio with Conexant becomes very noisy and > this is regardless of the sound system or speakers/headphones I use. > > The noise can be described, as high pitched, sandy texture noise > heard during more expressive parts of the music or speech. > > I experience this on two Thinkpads (x200s and x200) and it very evident > when I connected external speakers, they produced a lot of this noise, > or maybe I just could hear it better, because of the frequency response > of the speakers. > > Does anybody have some similar issues? > > My current audio setup: > > * PulseAudio (but the problem is experienced with ALSA as well) > * MPD for music playing > * Conexant and other related modules compiled in, power-saving > features enabled. > > What I have tried to eliminate the noise: > > * Various levels of Master,PCM,Headphone channels via Alsamixer > * Increase the sample rate in MPD settings. > > The noise can be clearly head when I Have the following setting on my > Alsamixer: > > * Master ~50 > * PCM 100 > * Headphone 100 > > Does anybody has any thoughts on why am I experiencing this? > > Thanks a lot, > Ignas A. > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Ignas Anikevicius > wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > It's been quite a while since I noticed this annoying behaviour, but I > > could not find any information what might cause this. So the problem is > > that at lower volumes my HD-Audio with Conexant becomes very noisy and > > this is regardless of the sound system or speakers/headphones I use. > > > > The noise can be described, as high pitched, sandy texture noise > > heard during more expressive parts of the music or speech. > > > > I experience this on two Thinkpads (x200s and x200) and it very evident > > when I connected external speakers, they produced a lot of this noise, > > or maybe I just could hear it better, because of the frequency response > > of the speakers. > > > > Does anybody have some similar issues? > > > > My current audio setup: > > > > * PulseAudio (but the problem is experienced with ALSA as well) > > * MPD for music playing > > * Conexant and other related modules compiled in, power-saving > > features enabled. > > > > What I have tried to eliminate the noise: > > > > * Various levels of Master,PCM,Headphone channels via Alsamixer > > * Increase the sample rate in MPD settings. > > > > The noise can be clearly head when I Have the following setting on my > > Alsamixer: > > > > * Master ~50 > > * PCM 100 > > * Headphone 100 > > > > Does anybody has any thoughts on why am I experiencing this? > > > > Thanks a lot, > > Ignas A. > > > > I would check the inputs in alsamixer and play around with them. I > had a problem similar to this for many months and it was due to some > funny input volume I didn't need, so I muted it. > > On 15/05/12 17:31, Alecks Gates wrote: > > I would check the inputs in alsamixer and play around with them. I > > had a problem similar to this for many months and it was due to some > > funny input volume I didn't need, so I muted it. > > Thanks for replying, I have muted everything, except Headphones, Master, > Speaker and PCM outputs, which *are* necessary to get any sound out of > my machine either with headphones or speakers. Muting speakers when only > headphones were used did not help. > > Cheers, > I. > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Ignas Anikevicius > wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > It's been quite a while since I noticed this annoying behaviour, but I > > could not find any information what might cause this. So the problem is > > that at lower volumes my HD-Audio with Conexant becomes very noisy and > > this is regardless of the sound system or speakers/headphones I use. > > > > The noise can be described, as high pitched, sandy texture noise > > heard during more expressive parts of the music or speech. > > > > I experience this on two Thinkpads (x200s and x200) and it very evident > > when I connected external speakers, they produced a lot of this noise, > > or maybe I just could hear it better, because of the frequency response > > of the speakers. > > > > Does anybody have some similar issues? > > > > My current audio setup: > > > > * PulseAudio (but the problem is experienced with ALSA as well) > > * MPD for music playing > > * Conexant and other related modules compiled in, power-saving > > features enabled. > > > > What I have tried to eliminate the noise: > > > > * Various levels of Master,PCM,Headphone channels via Alsamixer > > * Increase the sample rate in MPD settings. > > > > The noise can be clearly head when I Have the following setting on my > > Alsamixer: > > > > * Master ~50 > > * PCM 100 > > * Headphone 100 > > > > Does anybody has any thoughts on why am I experiencing this? > > I have a strong expectation that part of what you're hearing is system > electrical noise. > > What happens when you set: > > * Master -> 100 > * Headphone -> 100 > * Everything else -> 0 > > ...but you're not playing anything? If you hear anything, then what > you're hearing isn't something you can really deal with without using > an external sound card. Any USB sound card would do fine. (A pair of > 'gamer' headphones I bought at Best Buy advertised USB support...and > it turns out they were packaged with a tiny USB<->3.5mm sound > adapter.) > > If you don't hear the characteristic sound you're describing, then I'd > expect you're encountering clipping. That's when the logical amplitude > of a signal is greater than the medium holding it, and that happens a > *lot* with integer PCM mixing and amplification. > > Unfortunately, there's little to no standardization as to what '0' and > '100' mean between audio chipsets, so the best you can really do here > is crank all of your sliders to maximum, and decrease some of them > until you no longer hear the clipping. (And then remember which > positions on the relevant sliders that corresponds to; it usually > means you're getting no amplification, but also no attenuation.) > > -- > :wq > > Howdy, > > I could not resist this posting. > As many of you know, I've been a > real pain in the microprocessor lately.... > Particularly about Arm, A15 and Samsung. > > Well in keeping with that tradition, it seems > Samsung TV's are now supporting SSH into them > and directly and hacking the firmware: > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/samygo/ > > > Samsung is also very progressive on the A-15 > Arm development boards, which are sure to > create quite a stir when they are widely > available (soon I've heard): > > > http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/03/07/samsung-exynos-5250-dual-core-cortex-a15-and-gaia-smdk-development-board/#ixzz1p5yR3p7B > > > Samsung Galaxy Nexus cell-phone that runs SEandroid, natively: > > http://selinuxproject.org/page/SEAndroid > > Samsung is also moving aggresively to support > open source drivers for (ARM) graphics chips: > > > http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Open-source-driver-for-ARM-s-Mali-graphics-appears-1432447.html > > > ARM is preparing for domination and is looking rather cool these > days and Samsung is surely one of the most appealing > (ARM) vendors for the open source community. > > > enjoy, > James > > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Dale wrote: > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On Mon, 14 May 2012 12:13:18 -0500 > >> Dale wrote: > >> > >>> For example: Alan, Mike, Pandu, Mark, Neil and me are the top posters > >>> on this list. > >> > >> Yo Dale, > >> > >> You might want to re-calibrate your stats engine :-) > >> > >> I've been quiet for a while (getting old...)[1] and fifty bucks says > >> Michael, Canek, Pandu and a couple more have all posted more than me > >> this year > >> > >> [1] Well, that's my story and I'm sticking with it > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: > > > > http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml > > > > I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit tho. > > Someone put alum in your water or something? > > > > ROFL > > > > Dale > > > > Jeez.... Am I _STILL_ showing up on this list of high posting people? > I've honestly worked to get below number 10 and I cannot get there > apparently... (Too many posts like this I suppose!) ;-) > > - Mark > > Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Dale wrote: > >> Alan McKinnon wrote: > >>> On Mon, 14 May 2012 12:13:18 -0500 > >>> Dale wrote: > >>> > >>>> For example: Alan, Mike, Pandu, Mark, Neil and me are the top posters > >>>> on this list. > >>> > >>> Yo Dale, > >>> > >>> You might want to re-calibrate your stats engine :-) > >>> > >>> I've been quiet for a while (getting old...)[1] and fifty bucks says > >>> Michael, Canek, Pandu and a couple more have all posted more than me > >>> this year > >>> > >>> [1] Well, that's my story and I'm sticking with it > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: > >> > >> http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml > >> > >> I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit tho. > >> Someone put alum in your water or something? > >> > >> ROFL > >> > >> Dale > >> > > > > Jeez.... Am I _STILL_ showing up on this list of high posting people? > > I've honestly worked to get below number 10 and I cannot get there > > apparently... (Too many posts like this I suppose!) ;-) > > > > - Mark > > > > > > > I'm wondering on this myself. Should I take more meds or are the meds > causing it? < scratches head > > > o_O > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > -- > I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or > how you interpreted my words! > > Miss the compile output? Hint: > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n" > > On 15/05/12 17:52, Michael Mol wrote: > > I have a strong expectation that part of what you're hearing is system > > electrical noise. > > > > What happens when you set: > > > > * Master -> 100 > > * Headphone -> 100 > > * Everything else -> 0 > > If I do not play anything while PCM is at 0 and Master and Headphone are > at 100, then I do not hear anything. But if I start 'playing' something > while still with PCM at 0 (no sound can be heard), then I start hearing > irregular clipping sound. > > Is that what you expected? > > If I decrease the sound to a level where I stop hearing clipping, then I > can barely hear the music. Although the same headphones play on my > player fine. > > And It's a shame, that I indeed hear clipping. Are there any ways to > increase the sound volume without increasing the mixer setting in ALSA? > Would a different sound card help? Is there any way I can solve the > problem without buying new hardware? > > Thanks a lot for help, > I. > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Ignas Anikevicius > wrote: > > On 15/05/12 17:52, Michael Mol wrote: > >> I have a strong expectation that part of what you're hearing is system > >> electrical noise. > >> > >> What happens when you set: > >> > >> * Master -> 100 > >> * Headphone -> 100 > >> * Everything else -> 0 > > > > If I do not play anything while PCM is at 0 and Master and Headphone are > > at 100, then I do not hear anything. But if I start 'playing' something > > while still with PCM at 0 (no sound can be heard), then I start hearing > > irregular clipping sound. > > > > Is that what you expected? > > > > If I decrease the sound to a level where I stop hearing clipping, then I > > can barely hear the music. Although the same headphones play on my > > player fine. > > > > And It's a shame, that I indeed hear clipping. Are there any ways to > > increase the sound volume without increasing the mixer setting in ALSA? > > There are going to be multiple sliders which affect your playback > volume. Without seeing a list of your sliders, I couldn't really guess > which, beyond 'Master', 'PCM' and 'Headphone'. There may be others; my > old Sound Blaster Live had a ton of internal signal processing > sliders, and anything that involves amplification presents that risk. > > Each one of those will likely have a threshold where you'll risk > clipping if you go above it. I.e. if PCM and Headphone are at 50, but > Master is above $master_threshold, you may hear clipping. Likewise, if > Master and Headphone are at 50, but PCM is above $pcm_threshold, you > may hear clipping. Similarly, 'Headphone'... > > There is probably a combination of settings which works best, and > sounds fine. The trouble, of course, is finding the maximum safe > threshold for each. > > Me, I'm fortunate; my Intel-HDA-compatible cards all tend to say > things like "-5dB" or "+20dB" when I'm using the console Alsamixer, > and I've established that as long as they say "0dB", I get the best > signal I can get. > > > Would a different sound card help? > > Sure; you could use a card with more post-mixer amplification. Or a > card with little to no mixing options. Or an external amplifier. > > > Is there any way I can solve the > > problem without buying new hardware? > > You might try using something like PulseAudio, which may be doing > internal mixing in the floating point space before it maps back to > 16-bit linear PCM. My experiences with PulseAudio have generally been > positive in terms of audio quality. The trickiest part is getting > applications to pipe their audio through it, followed by getting > direct access to the card's mixer settings if I need it. But > "pavucontrol" as a mixer control for PulseAudio works reasonably well > for the majority of circumstances. > > > > > Thanks a lot for help, > > np. > > (Note: I CC'd this back to the main list, because somehow this one got > sent to me directly. Channeling communications through the main list > keeps the archives useful.) > > -- > :wq > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:28 AM, Ignas Anikevicius > wrote: > > Dear all, > > > > It's been quite a while since I noticed this annoying behaviour, but I > > could not find any information what might cause this. So the problem is > > that at lower volumes my HD-Audio with Conexant becomes very noisy and > > this is regardless of the sound system or speakers/headphones I use. > > > > The noise can be described, as high pitched, sandy texture noise > > heard during more expressive parts of the music or speech. > > > > I experience this on two Thinkpads (x200s and x200) and it very evident > > when I connected external speakers, they produced a lot of this noise, > > or maybe I just could hear it better, because of the frequency response > > of the speakers. > > > > Does anybody have some similar issues? > > > > My current audio setup: > > > > * PulseAudio (but the problem is experienced with ALSA as well) > > * MPD for music playing > > * Conexant and other related modules compiled in, power-saving > > features enabled. > > > > What I have tried to eliminate the noise: > > > > * Various levels of Master,PCM,Headphone channels via Alsamixer > > * Increase the sample rate in MPD settings. > > > > The noise can be clearly head when I Have the following setting on my > > Alsamixer: > > > > * Master ~50 > > * PCM 100 > > * Headphone 100 > > > > Does anybody has any thoughts on why am I experiencing this? > > > > Thanks a lot, > > Ignas A. > > > > Hi Ignas, > I've never used pulse-audio so I cannot help with that, but with > plain Alsa I had a similar (but not identical) problem recently. In my > case the distorted sound was primarily from my microphone and not, as > I remember it, from playback. Turned out it was a control I hadn't > looked at before called 'Digital' which apparently mixes audio in the > sound chip and for whatever reason was very dirty sounding on the mic > side. > > Note that my audio is not Conextent but rather something called > SupremeFX X-Fi (Creative Labs maybe?) so your results will almost > certainly vary. A little machine info is below. > > Good luck, > Mark > > c2stable ~ # lspci | grep Audio > 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD > Audio Controller > 02:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation GF100 High Definition Audio > Controller (rev a1) > 04:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation High Definition Audio > Controller (rev a1) > c2stable ~ # > > c2stable ~ # lsmod > Module Size Used by > vmnet 32295 15 > vmblock 9667 0 > vsock 35510 2 > vmci 55922 2 vsock > vmmon 56524 5 > vboxnetadp 4720 0 > vboxnetflt 13187 0 > vboxdrv 1760740 3 vboxnetadp,vboxnetflt > nvidia 12297407 104 > snd_hda_codec_hdmi 22531 8 > snd_hda_codec_analog 80332 1 > sky2 42693 0 > i2c_i801 7674 0 > snd_hda_intel 21907 17 > snd_hda_codec 73637 3 > snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_analog,snd_hda_intel > snd_hwdep 5508 1 snd_hda_codec > snd_pcm 74632 7 > snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec > snd_timer 18381 5 snd_pcm > snd 58592 33 > > snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_analog,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm,snd_timer > soundcore 6750 1 snd > snd_page_alloc 7340 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm > agpgart 31204 1 nvidia > c2stable ~ # > > On 15/05/12 20:08, Michael Mol wrote: > > There are going to be multiple sliders which affect your playback > > volume. Without seeing a list of your sliders, I couldn't really guess > > which, beyond 'Master', 'PCM' and 'Headphone'. There may be others; my > > old Sound Blaster Live had a ton of internal signal processing > > sliders, and anything that involves amplification presents that risk. > > [...] (some useful stuff snipped :)) > > At the moment all the other sliders are at 0. So I do not know, maybe > some other sliders are doing this... > > Also, ALSA can show the levels in dBs for my card... but I get sand even > when I'am at gain of ~ (-11,-14)dB on all three sliders (Master, PCM, > Headphone). > > > You might try using something like PulseAudio, which may be doing > > internal mixing in the floating point space before it maps back to > > 16-bit linear PCM. My experiences with PulseAudio have generally been > > positive in terms of audio quality. The trickiest part is getting > > applications to pipe their audio through it, followed by getting > > direct access to the card's mixer settings if I need it. But > > "pavucontrol" as a mixer control for PulseAudio works reasonably well > > for the majority of circumstances. > > I am using Pulse :)... The problem with I have that it changes my PCM > and Headphone levels without asking me... Therefore, if I change the > levels manually on alsamixer and then use Pavucontrol, it just changes > the PCM and headphone or speaker levels to max, which makes the sound > crappy. Otherwise I am quite a happy Pulse user. :) > > Is there a way to set the limiting thresholds? Or maybe I am using two > things at the same (ALSA and Pulse) and they are clashing and, > therefore, I can not get good quality sound? > > >> Thanks a lot for help, > > > > np. > > > > (Note: I CC'd this back to the main list, because somehow this one got > > sent to me directly. Channeling communications through the main list > > keeps the archives useful.) > > I thought, that I have replied to both, list and you.. :) Well, thanks > for that. :) > > Cheers, > I. > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Ignas Anikevicius > wrote: > > On 15/05/12 20:08, Michael Mol wrote: > >> There are going to be multiple sliders which affect your playback > >> volume. Without seeing a list of your sliders, I couldn't really guess > >> which, beyond 'Master', 'PCM' and 'Headphone'. There may be others; my > >> old Sound Blaster Live had a ton of internal signal processing > >> sliders, and anything that involves amplification presents that risk. > > > > [...] (some useful stuff snipped :)) > > > > At the moment all the other sliders are at 0. So I do not know, maybe > > some other sliders are doing this... > > Not if they're at their minimum settings. :-| > > > > > Also, ALSA can show the levels in dBs for my card... but I get sand even > > when I'am at gain of ~ (-11,-14)dB on all three sliders (Master, PCM, > > Headphone). > > > >> You might try using something like PulseAudio, which may be doing > >> internal mixing in the floating point space before it maps back to > >> 16-bit linear PCM. My experiences with PulseAudio have generally been > >> positive in terms of audio quality. The trickiest part is getting > >> applications to pipe their audio through it, followed by getting > >> direct access to the card's mixer settings if I need it. But > >> "pavucontrol" as a mixer control for PulseAudio works reasonably well > >> for the majority of circumstances. > > > > I am using Pulse :)... The problem with I have that it changes my PCM > > and Headphone levels without asking me... Therefore, if I change the > > levels manually on alsamixer and then use Pavucontrol, it just changes > > the PCM and headphone or speaker levels to max, which makes the sound > > crappy. Otherwise I am quite a happy Pulse user. :) > > Run alsamixer in a terminal while playing with pavucontrol; you'll see > Alsamixer update live while Pulse tweaks ALSA's mixer settings. It's > useful if you want to get a feel for what exactly Pulse is doing. > > On my desktop system, I found that if I had the Pulse master volume > control set to about 70%, Pulse would have my various sliders set to > just about their maximum setting before I started getting clipping > noises. > > > > Is there a way to set the limiting thresholds? > > No; the limiting thresholds I was describing are some value that just > happens to be what it is because of the way your sound card mixes > audio together. > > > Or maybe I am using two > > things at the same (ALSA and Pulse) and they are clashing and, > > therefore, I can not get good quality sound? > > Pulse is usually OK at managing ALSA in the background; you just have > to do all your volume tweaking through pavucontrol if you intend for > things to not change on you. > > [snip] > > >> (Note: I CC'd this back to the main list, because somehow this one got > >> sent to me directly. Channeling communications through the main list > >> keeps the archives useful.) > > > > I thought, that I have replied to both, list and you.. :) Well, thanks > > for that. :) > > Might have been a quirk in my GMail interface, now that I look at it. > Your earlier email looks fine. Something about the list's distribution > pattern changed, so simply clicking "Reply" doesn't work; I now have > to click "Reply All". > > Anyway, I'd try taking others' suggestions, too, and possibly poking > whatever PulseAudio support groups exist. They'll be interested in > your circumstance. If it's possible to use Pulse reasonably on your > hardware, they'll want to figure out how to make that less difficult > to do. > > Also, Mark noted that there were sliders he hadn't tweaked before when > he was experiencing similar issues, and it's plausible Pulse isn't > poking those at all. Try watching alsamixer to see what Pulse is up > to, and see if Pulse is passing over some of those sliders. > > -- > :wq > > On Tue, 15 May 2012 16:57:26 +0100 > Mick wrote: > > > On 15 May 2012 15:45, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 May 2012 10:50:43 +0100 > > > Mick wrote: > > > > >> $ ssh -D localhost:12465 root@10.10.10.12 > > > > > > This part is fine. > > > > > > I tried the next part. It didn't work nicely for me. > > > > Ah, thanks for this! It's reassuring to know that it's not just my > > system. :-) > > > > > > > So what I do now is: > > > > > > Firefox + FoxyProxy > > > > Firefox is less of a problem for me because I can set it up to > > socksify everything. It is Kmail that I am mostly interested in. > > > > > > > I see recent KDE now also supports socks. This is a nice new > > > addition so konqueror can also use it. > > > > Yes, but it does not work with the current stable kmail. The new > > KDEPIM is such a nightmare I do not plan moving to it anytime soon. > > It screwed up one box that I tried it on and that's enough for me. > > :-( > > > > Did you have any success with proxychains? > > > > I am not sure if the problem is related to the tsocks LD_PRELOAD > > error. > > It almost certainly is, tsocks uses LD_PRELOAD to mangle it's magic so > that stuff works. I believe chromium has severe issues with tsocks > because of how it does it's sandboxing, but I honestly don't know how > to get around that. > > On a properly setup Gentoo amd64 system, /lib is a link to /lib64, so > the error you get is not a path error, the chromium binary really > cannot (or will not) deal with tsocks.so > > I don't see anything wrong with the rest of your config. I honestly > think you are dealing with a chromium feature not a chromium bug. > > Have you searched chromium-specific sites to see what others have to > say? > > > > > > > > > I also noticed that when I try to set up a proxy server in Chromium > > using the 'under the bonnet' tab, I get this: > > > > "When running Chromium under a supported desktop environment, the > > system proxy settings will be used. However, either your system is not > > supported or there was a problem while launching your system > > configuration. > > > > But you can still configure via the command line. Please see man > > chromium-browser for more information on flags and environment > > variables." > > > > Trying the command line did not fix it: > > > > [4742:4753:1575546819:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(239)] Failed to call > > method: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name > > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files > > > > That's what made me think that something on my system is not set up > > properly. :-/ > > > > > > These are the libtsocks.so files in my system: > > > > # ls -la /lib*/libtsocks.so > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 13 15:34 /lib/libtsocks.so -> > > libtsocks.so.1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 13 > > 15:34 /lib64/libtsocks.so -> libtsocks.so.1 > > > > # ls -la /lib/libtsocks.so* > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 13 15:34 /lib/libtsocks.so -> > > libtsocks.so.1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 May 13 > > 15:34 /lib/libtsocks.so.1 -> libtsocks.so.1.8 > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 42912 May 13 15:34 /lib/libtsocks.so.1.8 > > > > # ls -la /lib64/libtsocks.so* > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 14 May 13 15:34 /lib64/libtsocks.so -> > > libtsocks.so.1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 May 13 > > 15:34 /lib64/libtsocks.so.1 -> libtsocks.so.1.8 > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 42912 May 13 15:34 /lib64/libtsocks.so.1.8 > > > > I can't see why it would not load it, unless it should be trying to > > load the '/lib64/libtsocks.so' instead of the '/lib/libtsocks.so' on > > an amd64 system? Shall I file a bug? > > > > -- > Alan McKinnnon > alan.mckinnon@gmail.com > > > On Tue, 15 May 2012 10:01:00 -0700 > Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: > > > > > > http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml > > > > > > I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit > > > tho. Someone put alum in your water or something? > > > > > > ROFL > > > > > > Dale > > > > > > > Jeez.... Am I _STILL_ showing up on this list of high posting people? > > I've honestly worked to get below number 10 and I cannot get there > > apparently... (Too many posts like this I suppose!) ;-) > > This gentoo stuff is addictive :-) > > Must be the personalities around here. I reckon that anyone who sticks > around here and becomes a regular (regardless of their skill level) has > something special going on inside. > > Gentoo-ers all have that DIY attitude, as if they would rather not wait > around for someone else to do all their lifting for them. > > > -- > Alan McKinnnon > alan.mckinnon@gmail.com > > > Hinnerk van Bruinehsen writes: > > > On 15.05.2012 11:11, Alex Schuster wrote: > >> Stroller writes: > >> > >>> I boot from a SystemRescueCD and follow the Gentoo quick install guide. > >>> > >>> This has never failed me. > >> > >> For me it did, half a year ago, several packages failed to build due to > >> strange libtool errors. It took me some days until I found the solution: > >> unset path. > >> > >> Libtool uses this variable without unsetting it before, and > SystemRescueCD > >> defines it as environment variable, which is still available in the > >> chroot. This messed things up a lot. > [...] > > Did you do env-update && . /etc/profile after entering chroot? > > I always thought that setting the right environment variables was the > > purpose of that. > > Sure. But this only _sets_ some environment variables - it does not > unset any other variables you already have defined. > > The error is in libtool - it uses a variable without unsetting it first. > > Wonko > > On Tuesday 15 May 2012 22:08:17 you wrote: > > On Tue, 15 May 2012 16:57:26 +0100 > > Mick wrote: > > > > I am not sure if the problem is related to the tsocks LD_PRELOAD > > > error. > > > > It almost certainly is, tsocks uses LD_PRELOAD to mangle it's magic so > > that stuff works. I believe chromium has severe issues with tsocks > > because of how it does it's sandboxing, but I honestly don't know how > > to get around that. > > > > On a properly setup Gentoo amd64 system, /lib is a link to /lib64, so > > the error you get is not a path error, the chromium binary really > > cannot (or will not) deal with tsocks.so > > > > I don't see anything wrong with the rest of your config. I honestly > > think you are dealing with a chromium feature not a chromium bug. > > > > Have you searched chromium-specific sites to see what others have to > > say? > > I haven't yet, because it is not just Chromium that's not working as it is > supposed to (although it is the most vocal app on the terminal when called > with tsocks). I haven't yet found an app which will work with tsocks at > all. > > The fact that proxychains does not work at all (applications completely > ignore > it and run outside the tunnel) made me question the sanity of my set up. > Is > there anything other than coincidence that would cause both apps to fail? > -- > Regards, > Mick > > On Tuesday 15 May 2012 18:25:57 john wrote: > > > Would like to thank all guys and girls for posting. Even though I > > post very little myself your posts are always excellent and there is > > plenty to learn from just reading them. > > > > There are things I can do now which I never thought possible. Thanks > > Is this one case in which a me-too message is acceptable? Anyway, I > second John's gratitude to you all. > > -- > Rgds > Peter > > On Mon, 14 May 2012 22:50:33 -0400 > Philip Webb wrote: > > > I tried Hugin, but got nowhere. I set 6 points on each > > picture, which are 2 overlapping parts of a single > > original negative, but all it offered was a black screen; > > I did follow the on-line help. > > > > Then I tried Imagemagick & got a good result after a bit > > of fussing. The commands I used were > > > > convert -size 1000x760 canvas:black brum-canvas.jpg > > composite -geometry +0+0 brum-3070.jpg brum-canvas.jpg > > brum-1.jpg composite -geometry +220-8 brum-3068.jpg > > brum-1.jpg brum-2.jpg > > > > You can see the images at > > http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~purslow/test/ : they are of > > trams in Colmore Row, Birmingham in May 1953 . > > > > I still need to light/darken 1 image a bit to hide the > > join, but as a proof of concept this shows it's feasible > > with Imagemagick. > > > > Any further advice re Hugin is welcome: can anyone do it > > with these photos ? > > > > I just tried with fotoxx: This is a semi-manual process, but > I liked the resulting image. The joint is less visible > than on brum-2.jpg. It was easy to do an "unbend" after > merging, and therefore the clock and the face on the image > borders stay in the image. This was my first try to do a > panorama in fotoxx, and it took me less than 5 minutes, > much faster than with hugin. If you like I send you the > image to your private mail. > > Urs > > 120515 Urs Schutz wrote: > > I just tried with fotoxx. > > I hadn't heard of that one : there are so many pkgs in media/gfx > that it's difficult to be sure I've checked all photo editors. > > > This is a semi-manual process, but I liked the resulting image. > > It c~b any more manual than Imagemagick (smile). > > > The joint is less visible than on brum-2.jpg. > > That wb useful : no doubt, I could adjust one of them with Imagemagick, > but eventually there wb >= 100 similar merges to do, > so some degree of automation wb very helpful. > > > It was easy to do an "unbend" after merging > > and therefore the clock and the face on the image borders stay in the > image. > > Not a problem with Imagemagick. > > > This was my first try to do a panorama in fotoxx > > and it took me less than 5 minutes, much faster than with hugin. > > If you like I send you the image to your private mail. > > Please do & thanks for this info. > > Does anyone else have suggestions re pkgs or methods ? > -- it does look as if this rather simple task is fairly challenging, > so others may benefit if it's on record here. > > I have emerged Gimp & will look at what it can do soon : > it has 'layers', which look like what is needed. > > -- > ========================,,============================================ > SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb > ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto > TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca > > > > On May 15, 2012 7:50 AM, "Dale" wrote: > > > > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think: > > > > http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml > > > > I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit tho. > > Someone put alum in your water or something? > > > > I blabbed that much?? > > Gee... I purposefully stay away from piping up in threads related to CUPS, > KDE, Gnome, and other desktop-only stuff, and still end up in the top 5?? > o_O > > Rgds, > > Hi, > > I'm trying out grub2 for the first time on my old laptop. I'm > following the guide at: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Quick_Start > which seems easy enough. Basically just emerge it, install and go. > > However... two different questions: > > When I did this from a chroot, I just got the GRUB> prompt upon > rebooting... no menu or anything. I can manually type "linux > /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3" and then boot into my system. When I run > grub2-mkconfig from within the chroot, I don't get any "Found linux > image" lines. It does not create /boot/grub2/grub.cfg but rather > grub.cfg.new. So I don't know if it's confused about where /boot is or > what. Is there a trick to installing/updating grub2 config from within > a chroot? > > Second, when running grub2-mkconfig from within my working gentoo > system, it fails with "error: failed to get canonical path of > /dev/root." which is apparently because I don't use an initramfs. I > must manually run "ln -s /dev/sda3 /dev/boot" before it will work. Is > there any trick to avoid having to do that every time? For now I have > simply added that to my after-kernel-update script but I'm curious to > know if grub2 knows how to handle this on its own somehow. > > Thanks, > Paul > > On 15 May 2012 19:37, Paul Hartman wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying out grub2 for the first time on my old laptop. I'm > > following the guide at: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Quick_Start > > which seems easy enough. Basically just emerge it, install and go. > > > > However... two different questions: > > > > When I did this from a chroot, I just got the GRUB> prompt upon > > rebooting... no menu or anything. I can manually type "linux > > /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3" and then boot into my system. When I run > > grub2-mkconfig from within the chroot, I don't get any "Found linux > > image" lines. It does not create /boot/grub2/grub.cfg but rather > > grub.cfg.new. So I don't know if it's confused about where /boot is or > > what. Is there a trick to installing/updating grub2 config from within > > a chroot? > > I don't really understand where the chroot comes into this but ... did > you add the "-o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg" part? I forgot that bit a few > times and then couldn't figure out why my changes weren't taking > effect. :-) > > > Second, when running grub2-mkconfig from within my working gentoo > > system, it fails with "error: failed to get canonical path of > > /dev/root." which is apparently because I don't use an initramfs. I > > must manually run "ln -s /dev/sda3 /dev/boot" before it will work. Is > > there any trick to avoid having to do that every time? For now I have > > simply added that to my after-kernel-update script but I'm curious to > > know if grub2 knows how to handle this on its own somehow. > > > > Thanks, > > Paul > > > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Hilco Wijbenga > wrote: > > On 15 May 2012 19:37, Paul Hartman > wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> I'm trying out grub2 for the first time on my old laptop. I'm > >> following the guide at: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Quick_Start > >> which seems easy enough. Basically just emerge it, install and go. > >> > >> However... two different questions: > >> > >> When I did this from a chroot, I just got the GRUB> prompt upon > >> rebooting... no menu or anything. I can manually type "linux > >> /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3" and then boot into my system. When I run > >> grub2-mkconfig from within the chroot, I don't get any "Found linux > >> image" lines. It does not create /boot/grub2/grub.cfg but rather > >> grub.cfg.new. So I don't know if it's confused about where /boot is or > >> what. Is there a trick to installing/updating grub2 config from within > >> a chroot? > > > > I don't really understand where the chroot comes into this but ... did > > you add the "-o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg" part? I forgot that bit a few > > times and then couldn't figure out why my changes weren't taking > > effect. :-) > > Hehe, yeah, I used that command. I'm installing it from chroot for the > first time because gentoo's bootloader was not yet present on the > machine (only Windows7). > > 120515 Philip Webb wrote: > > 120515 Urs Schutz wrote: > >> I just tried with fotoxx. > >> This is a semi-manual process, but I liked the resulting image. > > I've installed Fotoxx & it does a very good job ! > > >> The joint is less visible than on brum-2.jpg. > > There's no sign of it on my version : > http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~purslow/test/brum-3.jpg > > >> It was easy to do an "unbend" after merging > >> and therefore the clock and the face on the image borders stay in the > image. > > They're on my image, but I can't find out how to turn it into a rectangle. > NB there are noticeable curves at the R-hand edge not in the original: > look at the sidewalk curve & at the building pediment. > Any suggestions ? -- otherwise, this looks like the tool to use. > > -- > ========================,,============================================ > SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb > ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto > TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 16.05.2012 04:37, Paul Hartman wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying out grub2 for the first time on my old laptop. I'm > > following the guide at: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2_Quick_Start which seems easy > > enough. Basically just emerge it, install and go. > > > > However... two different questions: > > > > When I did this from a chroot, I just got the GRUB> prompt upon > > rebooting... no menu or anything. I can manually type "linux > > /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3" and then boot into my system. When I > > run grub2-mkconfig from within the chroot, I don't get any "Found > > linux image" lines. It does not create /boot/grub2/grub.cfg but > > rather grub.cfg.new. So I don't know if it's confused about where > > /boot is or what. Is there a trick to installing/updating grub2 > > config from within a chroot? > > > > Second, when running grub2-mkconfig from within my working gentoo > > system, it fails with "error: failed to get canonical path of > > /dev/root." which is apparently because I don't use an initramfs. > > I must manually run "ln -s /dev/sda3 /dev/boot" before it will > > work. Is there any trick to avoid having to do that every time? For > > now I have simply added that to my after-kernel-update script but > > I'm curious to know if grub2 knows how to handle this on its own > > somehow. > > > > Thanks, Paul > > > > If I recall correctly you need to mount /sys for grub2 to sucessfully > detect devices. > mount -o bind /sys proc and dev should be mounted according to the manual. > > If you use a /boot- partition mount it, when you are inside the chroot. > Doing so it worked like a charm for all devices I installed that way > (3 in the last 3 months, if I recall correctly). > > With kind regards, > > Hinnerk > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPs2UIAAoJEJwwOFaNFkYcgrcIALVB1QY/HOX/xkDesJkRSLjS > rvK4m/WDde6FsmT2B3XSSZ9W6aVAfdJO8+GM+0MolpRT64fp7wNtAr0yaV4ALRr8 > tNxk0YqWXPcSmh4LIsagKKnMuCCajHXZMK7AWPqnyAtifKPlP14j4H2T9cNegPvz > doR9DF2sU/TPyCzVrvq1ouMelXkao9EC7ejQ39nnZ12PrxrdqapITpkqjJ2OuTOn > NylZS6HQnZw+A8uLVuUD+Mclu/Z+sRbSEUAQelHSDe3knA7MZTkeXBrUoKj4g63r > 2YRnrJACxeeJkIVxGOuVTQIT7a0A5TZHzMiv8wWTbIfDstPUBkGd3iV6Jvl3ndM= > =tTo+ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > Hello everybody, > > I was wondering if the following is possible: > - Add a lot of daemons to a newly created runlevel post-default > - Switch to it after the xdm is started (or after some time) > > I want to do this, so that I do not have to wait while non-crucial > services are being started (e.g. fcron, bitlbee, ntpd to name a few). > Maybe it is possible to somehow prioritize the initscripts? > > Another related question is that I come from Arch and there I could just > give the *order* of the daemons/initscripts to start and some of them > could be started and 'in background'. Is it possible to do that with > openrc? I saw the rc_parallel option in rc.conf, but I do not know, > whether I need anything else. > > Thanks for help, > Ignas A. > > On 15 May 2012 23:19, Mick wrote: > > On Tuesday 15 May 2012 22:08:17 you wrote: > > >> I don't see anything wrong with the rest of your config. I honestly > >> think you are dealing with a chromium feature not a chromium bug. > >> > >> Have you searched chromium-specific sites to see what others have to > >> say? > > > > I haven't yet, because it is not just Chromium that's not working as it > is > > supposed to (although it is the most vocal app on the terminal when > called > > with tsocks). I haven't yet found an app which will work with tsocks at > all. > > OK, I just noticed that launching chromium from a terminal brings up > this error, so it is not tsocks specific: > > $ chromium > [4163:4174:213397467:ERROR:object_proxy.cc(239)] Failed to call > method: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files > > > > The fact that proxychains does not work at all (applications completely > ignore > > it and run outside the tunnel) made me question the sanity of my set up. > Is > > there anything other than coincidence that would cause both apps to fail? > > Yep, it is a coincidence it seems: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408427 > > -- > Regards, > Mick > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Ignas Anikevicius > wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > > > I was wondering if the following is possible: > > - Add a lot of daemons to a newly created runlevel post-default > > - Switch to it after the xdm is started (or after some time) > > > > I want to do this, so that I do not have to wait while non-crucial > > services are being started (e.g. fcron, bitlbee, ntpd to name a few). > > Maybe it is possible to somehow prioritize the initscripts? > > > > Another related question is that I come from Arch and there I could just > > give the *order* of the daemons/initscripts to start and some of them > > could be started and 'in background'. Is it possible to do that with > > openrc? I saw the rc_parallel option in rc.conf, but I do not know, > > whether I need anything else. > > Be aware that the rc_parallel option has never been really supported, > and it actually doesn't appear in the /etc/rc.conf of the one machine > I have access to that still uses OpenRC. > > You may want to try systemd, it sounds like it does (out of the box) > exactly what you want to. > > Regards. > -- > Canek Peláez Valdés > Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación > Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México > > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Ignas Anikevicius > > wrote: > >> Hello everybody, > >> > >> I was wondering if the following is possible: > >> - Add a lot of daemons to a newly created runlevel post-default > >> - Switch to it after the xdm is started (or after some time) > >> > >> I want to do this, so that I do not have to wait while non-crucial > >> services are being started (e.g. fcron, bitlbee, ntpd to name a few). > >> Maybe it is possible to somehow prioritize the initscripts? > >> > >> Another related question is that I come from Arch and there I could just > >> give the *order* of the daemons/initscripts to start and some of them > >> could be started and 'in background'. Is it possible to do that with > >> openrc? I saw the rc_parallel option in rc.conf, but I do not know, > >> whether I need anything else. > > > > Be aware that the rc_parallel option has never been really supported, > > and it actually doesn't appear in the /etc/rc.conf of the one machine > > I have access to that still uses OpenRC. > > > > You may want to try systemd, it sounds like it does (out of the box) > > exactly what you want to. > > > > Regards. > > > Just to add for the OP, this was discussed on -dev and it was removed, > although you can still try it if you want, a good while back because it > was causing problems. I don't know anything much about systemsd but > according to the devs, you shouldn't use the parallel option with openRC > unless you want to keep up with the problems. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > -- > I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or > how you interpreted my words! > > Miss the compile output? Hint: > EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n" > > On 05/16/2012 01:40 AM, Ignas Anikevicius wrote: > > > I want to do this, so that I do not have to wait while non-crucial > > services are being started > > I can barely remember when I was young enough to care about saving > a few seconds. (But, good for you :) > > Have you heard of systemd? Yet another evil conspiracy spawned by > Lennart Poettering, father of pulseaudio and scourge of old fossils > (like many of us here) who avoid any form of progress. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemd > > My evil twin, Walter Dnes, has been agitating for systemd in this > mailing list for months. He actually knows how systemd works and > can be persuaded to... well, I expect he'll be along shortly to > tell you about it. > > > Hello, > > I do need the ruby-gem linecache19-0.5.12. Usually, there are two ways to > install a gem, right? Via emerge and via gem install. But here, only one > way works. dev-ruby/linecache only builds the > ruby18-version > of > this gem, so I'm stuck with gem install. But gem install fails with the > following error: > > trace_nums.c:(.text+0x22): undefined reference to `ruby_current_thread' > > > I am using ruby-1.9.3p194, but tried with different versions as well. > > Does anyone have a clue what I can do to solve the problem and get > linecache19-0.5.12 installed? > > Thanks in advance, > > Christian. > > On Wed, 16 May 2012 09:40:26 +0100, Ignas Anikevicius wrote: > > > I want to do this, so that I do not have to wait while non-crucial > > services are being started (e.g. fcron, bitlbee, ntpd to name a few). > > Maybe it is possible to somehow prioritize the initscripts? > > Yes it is. The initscripts themselves have such a mechanism, using the > before and after statements, for example making sure that network > services are started after the network is brought up. You can add your > own rules to the daemons' config files in /etc/conf.d or to /etc/rc.conf. > > To have bitlbee start after xdm either add > > rc_after="xdm" > > to /etc/conf.d/bitlbee or put > > rc_bitlbee_after="xdm" > > in /etc/rc.conf. Both have the same effect, it depends on whether you > want to put all these settings together or in the individual services' > config files. > > > -- > Neil Bothwick > > Tact is for people who don't understand sarcasm. > > On 16/05/12 14:15, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 16 May 2012 09:40:26 +0100, Ignas Anikevicius wrote: > > > >> I want to do this, so that I do not have to wait while non-crucial > >> services are being started (e.g. fcron, bitlbee, ntpd to name a few). > >> Maybe it is possible to somehow prioritize the initscripts? > > > > Yes it is. The initscripts themselves have such a mechanism, using the > > before and after statements, for example making sure that network > > services are started after the network is brought up. You can add your > > own rules to the daemons' config files in /etc/conf.d or to /etc/rc.conf. > > > > To have bitlbee start after xdm either add > > > > rc_after="xdm" > > > > to /etc/conf.d/bitlbee or put > > > > rc_bitlbee_after="xdm" > > > > in /etc/rc.conf. Both have the same effect, it depends on whether you > > want to put all these settings together or in the individual services' > > config files. > > > > Thanks for the tip!, I will use this to see how much difference do I > get. :) > > Cheers, > Ignas > > On 16/05/12 13:13, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:40 AM, Ignas Anikevicius > > wrote: > >> Hello everybody, > >> > >> I was wondering if the following is possible: > >> - Add a lot of daemons to a newly created runlevel post-default > >> - Switch to it after the xdm is started (or after some time) > >> > >> I want to do this, so that I do not have to wait while non-crucial > >> services are being started (e.g. fcron, bitlbee, ntpd to name a few). > >> Maybe it is possible to somehow prioritize the initscripts? > >> > >> Another related question is that I come from Arch and there I could just > >> give the *order* of the daemons/initscripts to start and some of them > >> could be started and 'in background'. Is it possible to do that with > >> openrc? I saw the rc_parallel option in rc.conf, but I do not know, > >> whether I need anything else. > > > > Be aware that the rc_parallel option has never been really supported, > > and it actually doesn't appear in the /etc/rc.conf of the one machine > > I have access to that still uses OpenRC. > > > > You may want to try systemd, it sounds like it does (out of the box) > > exactly what you want to. > > > > Regards. > > I did know, that this was removed. If I experience problems I'll remove > the option, but maybe I'll remove it all together. > > I have systemd installed as I wanted to try, but I do not like the way > everything is managed. I like the idea of simple bash initscripts, which > can be easily extended if needed. I can also write bash scripts, which > configure my system the way I want (i.e. set battery charging thresholds > or something similar). > > I do not care for a split second advantage, but I just do not see a lot > of point in waiting for bitlbee to start before xdm so that I might need > maybe a while after I boot into my computer. > > Thanks for suggestions to everybody. > > Cheers, > Ignas > > > Hello, > > I have changed by use flag for ffmpeg to include theora. When i try > emerge I get the following > > [blocks B ] media-video/ffmpeg ("media-video/ffmpeg" is blocking > media-video/libav-0.8.2) > > * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be > * installed at the same time on the same system. > > (media-video/ffmpeg-0.10.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) > pulled in by media-video/ffmpeg required by @selected > > (media-video/libav-0.8.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled > in by > > >=media-video/libav-0.8.1[X,encode,-jpeg2k,-mp3,-sdl,-theora,-threads,-truetype,-vaapi,-vdpau,-x264] > required by (virtual/ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > merge) > > > This happens for several use flags (mp3 aac) > > > Does this mean that ffmpeg no longer supports mp3 x264 theora etc? > > And if I need to codecise an mp3 I cannot use ffmpeg? > > Or have I lost the plot? > -- > John D Maunder > > On Wed, 16 May 2012 22:29:11 +0000 > john wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > I have changed by use flag for ffmpeg to include theora. When i try > > emerge I get the following > > > > [blocks B ] media-video/ffmpeg ("media-video/ffmpeg" is blocking > > media-video/libav-0.8.2) > > > > * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be > > * installed at the same time on the same system. > > > > (media-video/ffmpeg-0.10.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) > > pulled in by media-video/ffmpeg required by @selected > > > > (media-video/libav-0.8.2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled > > in by > > > >=media-video/libav-0.8.1[X,encode,-jpeg2k,-mp3,-sdl,-theora,-threads,-truetype,-vaapi,-vdpau,-x264] > > required by (virtual/ffmpeg-0.10.2-r1::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for > > merge) > > > > > > This happens for several use flags (mp3 aac) > > > > > > Does this mean that ffmpeg no longer supports mp3 x264 theora etc? > > No, it means that ffmpeg and libav provide the same functionalityand > thus cannot both be installed on the same machine at the same time, > you need to pick one (libav is actually a fork of ffmpeg). See here: > > > http://blogs.gentoo.org/scarabeus/2012/05/14/media-videolibav-stable-on-most-important-archs/#utm_source=feed&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=feed > > > > > > And if I need to codecise an mp3 I cannot use ffmpeg? > > > > Or have I lost the plot? > > > > -- > Alan McKinnnon > alan.mckinnon@gmail.com > > > Hi, Gentoo! > > Just this past hour, I've noticed that in Gnome 2, any depression of > wants to create a .png image of my current desktop. This is > regardless of which application is currently active. This is > particularly irritating in Firefox, where I want to scroll the > screen. > > I suspect this might have been caused by a recent update to the ?event > library (I can't remember exactly what this was). > > I hate it when people do "clever" things like this. How can I make it > stop? > > -- > Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany). > > On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hi, Gentoo! > > > > Just this past hour, I've noticed that in Gnome 2, any depression of > > wants to create a .png image of my current desktop. This is > > regardless of which application is currently active. This is > > particularly irritating in Firefox, where I want to scroll the > > screen. > > > > I suspect this might have been caused by a recent update to the ?event > > library (I can't remember exactly what this was). > > > > I hate it when people do "clever" things like this. How can I make it > > stop? > > I would downgrade to previous version of the evdev driver and see if > it helps. Or disable/change the shortcut for print screen as a > temporary workaround. > > On 05/16/2012 03:00 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hi, Gentoo! > > > > Just this past hour, I've noticed that in Gnome 2, any depression of > > wants to create a .png image of my current desktop. This is > > regardless of which application is currently active. This is > > particularly irritating in Firefox, where I want to scroll the > > screen. > > > > I suspect this might have been caused by a recent update to the ?event > > library (I can't remember exactly what this was). > > > > I hate it when people do "clever" things like this. How can I make it > > stop? > > You did me a huge favor by asking that question, thanks! While poking > around in the keyboard settings applet I discovered a well-hidden option > to disable the Caps-Lock key. I hit that stupid thing by accident at > least ten times/hour and say very vulgar things when it happens ;) > > The keyboard-shortcuts applet does have an option to change the screenshot > hotkey, so maybe something changed it behind your back? > > > > > On Wed, 16 May 2012 00:12:25 -0400 > Philip Webb wrote: > > > 120515 Philip Webb wrote: > > > 120515 Urs Schutz wrote: > > >> I just tried with fotoxx. > > >> This is a semi-manual process, but I liked the > > >> resulting image. > > > > I've installed Fotoxx & it does a very good job ! > > > > >> The joint is less visible than on brum-2.jpg. > > > > There's no sign of it on my version : > > http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~purslow/test/brum-3.jpg > > > > >> It was easy to do an "unbend" after merging > > >> and therefore the clock and the face on the image > > >> borders stay in the image. > > > > They're on my image, but I can't find out how to turn it > > into a rectangle. NB there are noticeable curves at the > > R-hand edge not in the original: look at the sidewalk > > curve & at the building pediment. Any suggestions ? -- > > otherwise, this looks like the tool to use. > > > > Transform -> Unbend Image > Play with the vertical values, this is very easy, fast and > intuitive. With brum-3.jpg the best combination was: > vertical linear 5, vertical curved -16, Done > and after that > Transform -> Trim Image or even easier > Transform -> Auto-Trim Image to get rid of the black areas. > > In the case of brum-3.jpg apply a little bit of > Retouch -> Gamma Curves, (bend the left part of the curve > a little bit to the bottom, and the right part to the top) > to enhance the image contrast. > Normally the image looses a little bit of sharpness during > the panorama stitching. You can correct this with: > Retouch -> Sharpen Image. > > But: If you would like to make an exhibit, then you get > better image quality if you bring the negatives to an old > fashioned photographer for direct enlargement on B&W photo > paper. > > Urs > > On 05/16/2012 07:08 PM, walt wrote: > >> You did me a huge favor by asking that question, thanks! While poking >> around in the keyboard settings applet I discovered a well-hidden option to >> disable the Caps-Lock key. I hit that stupid thing by accident at least ten >> times/hour and say very vulgar things when it happens ;) The >> keyboard-shortcuts applet does have an option to change the screenshot >> hotkey, so maybe something changed it behind your back? >> > Could you amplify a little bit and reveal exactly what applet you used and > where the little option is located? > > Thanks, > -- > G.Wolfe Woodbury > aka redwolfe > > >