From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98B0313800E for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 05:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD276E0713; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 05:26:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7953E06F3 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2012 05:25:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhp26 with SMTP id 26so7416533yhp.40 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:25:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=II1MoE6nDbD2OsIchOGlP2da86uS5UOIiI9loL4yYRU=; b=CpDT6KNx95EiPbGJUvrh9dsPVXRSX4hN2EGzj9ZBwoObm+j60JLUefpUN2ts21nuMg OyHcNleufDC1Q7K0FRaMAU6oNywA+cRcBCKoik2i7SADnkb0Ny3VlMheA+UN95n4BqH/ dYpHe3pRGZso0AZOj8fL8dFsnmmOm3TgtkIZ5a88KpriAeUKknGe6rKuaYHGFQd09fD+ XPNKoGtwZbvTvHP6KlqwRO1JU6/GBE0qLnk3/cJmclFL/yWbDVn3i3uKHigpAYigYrIk UFFx/s1yzMGleWiSCpB9I4VHFpTvuKS+jKm25cjcmCKZvZZLauzGqOoZhv54ZjIEfY/a NtrA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.83.234 with SMTP id t10mr1533884pay.39.1343798710744; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.62.229 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.62.229 with HTTP; Tue, 31 Jul 2012 22:25:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20120801034734.GB2882@ca.inter.net> References: <20120801034734.GB2882@ca.inter.net> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 07:25:10 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : proposed design From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: Gentoo User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d042ef4efcdb47704c62d84dd X-Archives-Salt: 0149c8bd-e603-4c25-9bb8-a5b733d7ec51 X-Archives-Hash: 6923fc0be2d5a6551b7e60391ecb521e --f46d042ef4efcdb47704c62d84dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Eithout looking it up.... With that prize the case is crap. The psu even more so. And Kingston....ugh... noname quality.... Quoting will be shot, blame phone. Am 01.08.2012 05:52 schrieb "Philip Webb" : > Thanks for all the advice so far. Here is the list of proposed pieces : > > CPU : AMD Bulldozer X4 FX-4170 4-Core 4,2 GHz 8 MB : 149.99 (CAD) > Mobo : Asus M5A97 AM3+ DDR3 2133 6xSATA3 2xUSB3 USB2 : 99.99 > Memory : Kingston ValueRAM 4 GB DDR3 1333 MHz CL9 : 24.99 > Graphix : Asus GT520-1GD3-CSM Nv GT520 810 MHz 1 GB : 54.99 > SSD : Kingston HyperX 3K SATA3 120 GB 6 Gb/s : 149.99 > HDD : Seagate Barracuda SATA3 500 GB 16 MB 6 Gb/s : 69.99 > Case : Canada Computer NA-680 ATX Tower 450 W W/CR : 42.99 > subtotal : 592.93 > tax : 77.08 > total : 670.01 > > CPU : the principal point made seemed to be that raw speed is central; > I'm suspicious that > 4 cores, chip design becomes vital to performance > & I doubt if I'm going to need more cores; this is the fastest CPU in > sight. > > Mobo : I've always bought Asus. > > Memory : I already have 1 of these in another machine, > so I'll end up with 8 GB after transfering it ; there's no point > in buying faster memory, as it will run at the lower speed. > > Graphics : I prefer to go with Nvidia on a separate card : > my suspicion is that Intel's built-in GPU takes space on the die > & I had a bad experience with drivers when I tried to use it > on a machine I built in 2007 (I had to add an Nvidia card in the end). > > SSD : I'll use this for everything needing regular access > & esp anything Portage (grin). > > HDD : This is far larger than I'll need in the foreseeable future, > but it will allow me to set up an incremental Rsync back-up. > > Case : I assume 450 W is adequate; the 2007 PSU has 500 W . > > I will also transfer a CD/DVD drive from another machine. > > All pieces are in good supply at Canada Computers in downtown Toronto, > which suggests they are popular with other customers. > > Comments are as welcome as ever (big smile). > > -- > ========================,,============================================ > SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb > ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto > TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca > > > --f46d042ef4efcdb47704c62d84dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Eithout looking it up.... With that prize the case is crap. The psu even= more so. And Kingston....ugh... noname quality....

Quoting will be shot, blame phone.

Am 01.08.2012 05:52 schrieb "Philip Webb&qu= ot; <purslow@ca.inter.net>= ;:
Thanks for all the advice so far. =A0Here is the list of proposed pieces :<= br>
=A0 CPU : AMD Bulldozer X4 FX-4170 4-Core 4,2 GHz 8 MB =A0 =A0: =A0149.99 (= CAD)
=A0 Mobo : Asus M5A97 AM3+ DDR3 2133 6xSATA3 2xUSB3 USB2 =A0: =A0 99.99
=A0 Memory : Kingston ValueRAM 4 GB DDR3 1333 MHz CL9 =A0 =A0 : =A0 24.99 =A0 Graphix : Asus GT520-1GD3-CSM Nv GT520 810 MHz 1 GB =A0 : =A0 54.99
=A0 SSD : Kingston HyperX 3K SATA3 120 GB 6 Gb/s =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0: =A014= 9.99
=A0 HDD : Seagate Barracuda SATA3 500 GB 16 MB 6 Gb/s =A0 =A0 : =A0 69.99 =A0 Case : Canada Computer NA-680 ATX Tower 450 W W/CR =A0 =A0: =A0 42.99 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0subtotal : =A0592.93
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 tax : =A0 77.08
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 total : =A0670.01

CPU : the principal point made seemed to be that raw speed is central;
I'm suspicious that =A0> 4 =A0cores, chip design becomes vital to pe= rformance
& I doubt if I'm going to need more cores; this is the fastest CPU = in sight.

Mobo : I've always bought Asus.

Memory : I already have =A01 =A0of these in another machine,
so I'll end up with =A08 GB =A0after transfering it ; there's no po= int
in buying faster memory, as it will run at the lower speed.

Graphics : I prefer to go with Nvidia on a separate card :
my suspicion is that Intel's built-in GPU takes space on the die
& I had a bad experience with drivers when I tried to use it
on a machine I built in 2007 (I had to add an Nvidia card in the end).

SSD : I'll use this for everything needing regular access
& esp anything Portage (grin).

HDD : This is far larger than I'll need in the foreseeable future,
but it will allow me to set up an incremental Rsync back-up.

Case : I assume =A0450 W =A0is adequate; the 2007 PSU has =A0500 W .

I will also transfer a CD/DVD drive from another machine.

All pieces are in good supply at Canada Computers in downtown Toronto,
which suggests they are popular with other customers.

Comments are as welcome as ever (big smile).

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SUPPORT =A0 =A0 ___________//___, =A0 Philip Webb
ELECTRIC =A0 /] [] [] [] [] []| =A0 Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT =A0 =A0`-O----------O---' =A0 purslowatchassdotutorontodotca

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