From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QtyQl-0006Hg-Ka for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:58:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 794D021C2AA; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:58:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qw0-f53.google.com (mail-qw0-f53.google.com [209.85.216.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A3921C24D for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qwb7 with SMTP id 7so1440222qwb.40 for ; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:57:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=R8Mt0O+rMIwDobqWT+zn+vmF78gKA2KWFyxgTKd5+f0=; b=eigdyUGf/HRIbiFo22mcBWlKjIMC/DuQm7yCKPzF8Xas96ASKBqiNvVrZ4BIsUDH4t f83Pys9j3ORy5I+kKCEXYEqoD3g/Nxqqwfcl7no7ryK+dIb+hRP98KX9CO5qLtU4DCNb HVUlF+uTH/vszy7UC3moCf7WC37yMSL3YsW4w= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.190.198 with SMTP id dj6mr420404qab.104.1313657836885; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:57:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.219.65 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:57:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E4CCC1D.7080709@smash-net.org> References: <201108170959.50645.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> <4561713.Q5X3SpEkrt@eve> <4E4C98DA.8000608@smash-net.org> <4E4CCC1D.7080709@smash-net.org> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 04:57:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered From: Matthew Finkel To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3005dc76b955fd04aac3cc39 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: f862a99b8e2002192279f49e144e91ff --20cf3005dc76b955fd04aac3cc39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Norman Rie=DF wrote= : > Am 08/18/11 09:11, schrieb Matthew Finkel: > > On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Norman Rie=DF > > wrote: > > > > Am 08/17/11 13:44, schrieb Joost Roeleveld: > > > On Wednesday, August 17, 2011 09:59:50 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > >> On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:48:30 Michael Mol wrote: > > >>> How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal use? Productio= n > > use? > > >>> For > > >>> server, desktop or embedded roles? What's your most interesting > > setup > > >>> or use case? > > >> > > >> Since you ask: my workstation runs Gentoo. My old workstation > > sometimes > > >> does; at other times it's experimenting with other distributions= . > > >> > > >> I have a midget server on the LAN (Atom N270) which runs Gentoo, > > but it's > > >> too underpowered to do all the compiling itself, so it > > NFS-exports its > > >> packages directory to my workstation, where I have a 32-bit > > chroot set up as > > >> an image of the Atom. Emerging is done here, making the packages > > available > > >> for installation on the Atom. This is a cumbersome operation > though. > > >> > > >> The Atom serves web, time, squid proxy, dns, cups and mysql to > > the LAN. It > > >> runs http-replicator and rsyncd to keep a local portage tree for > > the other > > >> boxes. I'd like it to serve mail too, but I've never managed to > > set that up. > > > > > > Putting email on the Atom using IMAP might not be the best option= . > > IMAP can be > > > quite heavy on resources on the server-side. > > > > > > I use a quad-core AMD for my server. > > > > > > -- > > > Joost > > > > > > > Depends on how you use it. I have an IMAP-Server running on Atom > which > > holds my email archive. Also depends on the Software you use for th= e > > IMAP-Server. > > I can not see why a N270 could not serve a moderate amount of users > > on IMAP. > > > > Concerning the "Atom not fast enough for compiling"-Problem. I > compiled, > > run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way less > > powerfull and it works just fine. > > > > Norman > > > > > > Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc? > > > > - Matt > > Atom: > > genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 > * sys-devel/gcc > > Sat Feb 26 13:06:08 2011 >>> sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 > merge time: 1 hour, 12 minutes and 27 seconds. > > Wed Mar 23 23:01:12 2011 >>> sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 > merge time: 1 hour, 10 minutes and 22 seconds. > > > Geode: > > genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 > * sys-devel/gcc > > Sat Feb 26 19:11:36 2011 >>> sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 > merge time: 7 hours, 17 minutes and 41 seconds. > > Fri Mar 25 05:51:21 2011 >>> sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5 > merge time: 7 hours, 17 minutes and 2 seconds. > > > Norman > > Interesting, thanks! I was interested in a comparison of compile times. I was originally going to ask how long it takes to compile OO/LibreOffice but then figured your system most likely didn't have it. haha And as you said in your other reply, if you rarely have to interact with this system, and compiling doesn't result in significant lag, why not compile it? It'd take a century to emerge an entire feature-full desktop/server build, but as a small embedded system it actually sounds reasonable. --20cf3005dc76b955fd04aac3cc39 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 4:23 AM, Norman Rie=DF <= span dir=3D"ltr"><norman@smash-n= et.org> wrote:
Am 08/18/11 09:11, schrieb Matthew Finkel:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Norman Rie=DF <= norman@smash-net.org
> <mailto:norman@smash-net.org>> wrote:
>
> =A0 =A0 Am 08/17/11 13:44, schrieb Joost Roeleveld:
> =A0 =A0 > On Wednesday, August 17, 2011 09:59:50 AM Peter Humphrey = wrote:
> =A0 =A0 >> On Tuesday 16 August 2011 02:48:30 Michael Mol wrote:=
> =A0 =A0 >>> How does everybody here use Gentoo? For personal = use? Production
> =A0 =A0 use?
> =A0 =A0 >>> For
> =A0 =A0 >>> server, desktop or embedded roles? What's you= r most interesting
> =A0 =A0 setup
> =A0 =A0 >>> or use case?
> =A0 =A0 >>
> =A0 =A0 >> Since you ask: my workstation runs Gentoo. My old wor= kstation
> =A0 =A0 sometimes
> =A0 =A0 >> does; at other times it's experimenting with othe= r distributions.
> =A0 =A0 >>
> =A0 =A0 >> I have a midget server on the LAN (Atom N270) which r= uns Gentoo,
> =A0 =A0 but it's
> =A0 =A0 >> too underpowered to do all the compiling itself, so i= t
> =A0 =A0 NFS-exports its
> =A0 =A0 >> packages directory to my workstation, where I have a = 32-bit
> =A0 =A0 chroot set up as
> =A0 =A0 >> an image of the Atom. Emerging is done here, making t= he packages
> =A0 =A0 available
> =A0 =A0 >> for installation on the Atom. This is a cumbersome op= eration though.
> =A0 =A0 >>
> =A0 =A0 >> The Atom serves web, time, squid proxy, dns, cups and= mysql to
> =A0 =A0 the LAN. It
> =A0 =A0 >> runs http-replicator and rsyncd to keep a local porta= ge tree for
> =A0 =A0 the other
> =A0 =A0 >> boxes. I'd like it to serve mail too, but I'v= e never managed to
> =A0 =A0 set that up.
> =A0 =A0 >
> =A0 =A0 > Putting email on the Atom using IMAP might not be the bes= t option.
> =A0 =A0 IMAP can be
> =A0 =A0 > quite heavy on resources on the server-side.
> =A0 =A0 >
> =A0 =A0 > I use a quad-core AMD for my server.
> =A0 =A0 >
> =A0 =A0 > --
> =A0 =A0 > Joost
> =A0 =A0 >
>
> =A0 =A0 Depends on how you use it. I have an IMAP-Server running on At= om which
> =A0 =A0 holds my email archive. Also depends on the Software you use f= or the
> =A0 =A0 IMAP-Server.
> =A0 =A0 I can not see why a N270 could not serve a moderate amount of = users
> =A0 =A0 on IMAP.
>
> =A0 =A0 Concerning the "Atom not fast enough for compiling"-= Problem. I compiled,
> =A0 =A0 run and update a Gentoo System on a AMD Geode LX, which is way= less
> =A0 =A0 powerfull and it works just fine.
>
> =A0 =A0 Norman
>
>
> Just out of curiosity, how long does it take to compile gcc?
>
> - Matt

Atom:

genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
=A0* sys-devel/gcc

=A0 =A0 Sat Feb 26 13:06:08 2011 >>> sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
=A0 =A0 =A0 merge time: 1 hour, 12 minutes and 27 seconds.

=A0 =A0 Wed Mar 23 23:01:12 2011 >>> sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
=A0 =A0 =A0 merge time: 1 hour, 10 minutes and 22 seconds.


Geode:

=A0genlop -t sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
=A0* sys-devel/gcc

=A0 =A0 Sat Feb 26 19:11:36 2011 >>> sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
=A0 =A0 =A0 merge time: 7 hours, 17 minutes and 41 seconds.

=A0 =A0 Fri Mar 25 05:51:21 2011 >>> sys-devel/gcc-4.4.5
=A0 =A0 =A0 merge time: 7 hours, 17 minutes and 2 seconds.


Norman


Interesting, thanks! I was interested in a co= mparison of compile times. I was originally going to ask how long it takes = to compile OO/LibreOffice but then figured your system most likely didn'= ;t have it. haha

And as you said in your other reply, if you rarely have= to interact with this system, and compiling doesn't result in signific= ant lag, why not compile it? It'd take a century to emerge an entire fe= ature-full desktop/server build, but as a small embedded system it actually= sounds reasonable.
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