[gentoo-user] a couple of systemd questions

[gentoo-user] a couple of systemd questions

[covici]

I want to -- at least in initial testing -- have systemd not try to do
things in parallell -- one at a time is very nice -- I even have openrc
configured that way.  Any way to do this?

Also, I do want an interactive boot like the I -- is confirm-spawn the
way to do this?

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of systemd questions

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:11 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> I want to -- at least in initial testing -- have systemd not try to do
> things in parallell -- one at a time is very nice -- I even have openrc
> configured that way.  Any way to do this?

No if you don't use --confirm-spawn AFAIK; the whole parallel start
thingy is deeply integrated in systemd's design. And, why would you
want to start things sequentially?

And BTW, people who configure OpenRC to start things in parallel are
going against the recommendations of its own maintaner:

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=391945#c10

"rc_parallel has never officially been declared a stable feature (see
the comments in rc.conf regarding this)."

OpenRC has never been able to reliable start services in parallel; on
the other hand, you can argue that systemd was designed specifically
to start services in parallel.

> Also, I do want an interactive boot like the I -- is confirm-spawn the
> way to do this?

Yes; you need to specify it on GRUB, LILO, or whatever boot loader you
use, although I've never used it.

> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Regards.
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Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of systemd questions

[covici]

Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:11 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> > I want to -- at least in initial testing -- have systemd not try to do
> > things in parallell -- one at a time is very nice -- I even have openrc
> > configured that way.  Any way to do this?
> 
> No if you don't use --confirm-spawn AFAIK; the whole parallel start
> thingy is deeply integrated in systemd's design. And, why would you
> want to start things sequentially?

Because its much easier to figure out things -- particularly if
something has gone wrong -- and I don't boot that often, so I don't
really care if it takes a bit longer -- its certainly a lot less than
that other OS.

And thanks for your response.



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Re: [gentoo-user] a couple of systemd questions

[Mark David Dumlao]

The proper way to figure out what failed to start and why is to use systemctl

# list of running services
systemctl

# status of particular service
systemctl status name-of-service

Now if your concern is the service loading order, then you're really
talking about problems in your unit files, i.e., there's a dependency
or sequencing instruction that wasn't included. Unlike sysvinit, you
don't need a reboot to determine or solve load order problems.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:29 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 6:11 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
>> > I want to -- at least in initial testing -- have systemd not try to do
>> > things in parallell -- one at a time is very nice -- I even have openrc
>> > configured that way.  Any way to do this?
>>
>> No if you don't use --confirm-spawn AFAIK; the whole parallel start
>> thingy is deeply integrated in systemd's design. And, why would you
>> want to start things sequentially?
>
> Because its much easier to figure out things -- particularly if
> something has gone wrong -- and I don't boot that often, so I don't
> really care if it takes a bit longer -- its certainly a lot less than
> that other OS.
>
> And thanks for your response.
>
>
>
> --
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
>
>          John Covici
>          covici@ccs.covici.com
>



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