From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B423138E66 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 12:39:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E10CE0B41; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 12:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-f196.google.com (mail-ie0-f196.google.com [209.85.223.196]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2EE13E0AD7 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 12:39:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f196.google.com with SMTP id rd18so1910985iec.11 for ; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 04:39:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ALrsiSfX4Cf2CTq1rXEmhL96AT/qvAUTmLgVmB5Bo5U=; b=JcTVsp3Er4MmuhoIvdvbOJ3haRDKGYFjfJT10y5bYhWrLiyi0f3ppOrqdELrY1H+Fi zLMLruxCxI0Tz68CE5t331OO3QH2cE1MbkSZ9yc5UcztWmd5YHAMCjVXz7K6r5/7k84M onk9oTyqOOKK7MDxrPIoXCNML5Onx/1p0hlfFG5l0OfIn+GWqttISWIwm/ym5D+khuD7 0BDlK7OYboggds5pV7AD57myylOD/yOuIpQW57TODjhwbWJvCVA6BsdXGEQkeymFduPz cx+DobP+ggcH2TyIC/kQRCpGOuRngkSUGiBJ0QjRyCZDkQ4L1yfc7QlOYsJ2e0pU5JYL 2dug== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.43.194 with SMTP id y2mr13221715igl.33.1393245548070; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 04:39:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.50.122.37 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Feb 2014 04:39:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <530AF085.1000206@yandex.ru> References: <52FF84CE.2050301@libertytrek.org> <5301B3E1.3000007@yandex.ru> <201402231335.31992.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <530A7700.4030809@gmail.com> <530AF085.1000206@yandex.ru> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2014 20:39:07 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie From: Mark David Dumlao To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: e3acfc21-a0a9-4e46-9170-af46dbcc8a8f X-Archives-Hash: ba80d131b627f20c1df7558dddb3a364 On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote: > 24.02.2014 02:32, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> [1] For lack of a better term, let's just call systemd here a "system >> controller". What is this ONE thing a system controller should do and do >> it well? > > > An init daemon generally does one thing well. it's obvious you haven't thought this through. consider, for a moment, that the "one thing well" that an init daemon is supposed to do is "run programs that do arbitrary things to get the system to an arbitrary state". do you not see a problem? -- This email is: [ ] actionable [ ] fyi [x] social Response needed: [ ] yes [ ] up to you [x] no Time-sensitive: [ ] immediate [ ] soon [x] none