From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124EE1381F3 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:04:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 035E121C00D; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ee0-f53.google.com (mail-ee0-f53.google.com [74.125.83.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A839C21C00D for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:02:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ee0-f53.google.com with SMTP id c50so3138012eek.40 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 00:02:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=FzOcU1+Dl/75hm62pjNRx3GIefnzXJrOuFx6AhIoi+g=; b=jBU2jCUCL2BNdk1GOBpArKCVR+6js3YABSQxrW/ALDtoWjpAWHNpHLEElTTDUKD50s lI4dWyQV+JHATdk8In/HOeQfYW/gQRrBG2xlEfDJwIOCWzPMaqh2xxExKp1c//JEAQPC z+1gX+NytEoh+n1f9ltRyzKhrdPwIIdZeA4gPRck6da1sOoW9sP3he2ucMdOuehC8UbF o9F/PDLxFWqIW97XNZxqMQGFFgynu7bHamH6y/cnQdaTzLGtK6Q/JPw3UQ6FKDb3e6EW dRSYwVs9EdwQ4eAqCFa/ltX+NFY7bG2uO11y8vv2uXLN9MWDnAcYODo7ZMRTpJgS9qgw lyBQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.215.194 with SMTP id e42mr39159611eep.32.1355731374325; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 00:02:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.67.212 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 00:02:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20121216171043.71084070@khamul.example.com> References: <50CB1942.3020900@gmail.com> <50CB4A3C.1030109@gmail.com> <50CB5406.7040404@gmail.com> <8738z7hgsa.fsf@ist.utl.pt> <20121216171043.71084070@khamul.example.com> Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:02:54 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? From: Mark David Dumlao To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 856a361c-b837-40cf-a84d-53f2bfc1994c X-Archives-Hash: 62b6766a7a8367b640f653aeec0d9c20 On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 10:16:05 +0200 > nunojsilva@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva) wrote: > > > On 2012-12-14, Mark Knecht wrote: > > > > > I guess the other question that's lurking here for me is why do you > > > have /usr on a separate partition? What's the usage model that > > > drives a person to do that? The most I've ever done is > > > move /usr/portage and /usr/src to other places. My /usr never has > > > all that much in it beyond those two directories, along with > > > maybe /usr/share. Would it not be easier for you in the long run to > > > move /usr back to / and not have to deal with this question at all? > > > > I may be wrong in this one, but the idea I have is that your regular > > applications (so, most of them) all lie under /usr/ -- /lib /bin and > > others are for essential system tools. > > > > That was the original reason for having / and /usr separate, and it > dates back to the early 70s. The other reason that stems from that time > period is the size of disks we had back then - they were tiny and often > a minimal / was all that could really fit on the primary system drive. I'm sorry, but I just can't let this one go. The reasons are backwards. The limitation in free space was the original reason [1] why / and /usr were separated. In fact, /usr was supposed to serve the same purpose as /home - it was originally a directory for users. It's only a quirk of history that served to keep most of the binaries in /usr when the home directories were moved elsewhere to /home. Long story short, Unix, too, has its share of old farts that are unwilling to embrace change at anything faster than a glacier's pace. Just ask the Plan 9 folks. [1] http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2010-December/074114.html -- This email is: [ ] actionable [x] fyi [ ] social Response needed: [ ] yes [ ] up to you [x] no Time-sensitive: [ ] immediate [ ] soon [x] none