From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D3D1381F3 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:10:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60E32E0C3D; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f50.google.com (mail-vb0-f50.google.com [209.85.212.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B1CDE0BE1 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:09:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id x14so4025247vbb.37 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:09:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=eQuy4YxZqwRC2GbFABADaJ8Q5UI8wY5jwubnu07TUUc=; b=lw5BkSXIglXs16A8rr6l3ctMG9ezndAo2VMDyxktWKC16VAEZslLJYoImsDoaK4Ee6 CsEahL1wp7yW9nbFR66lsb2LgaL0ALbCgUfDcVrWkkcCHjb/3qJoKf5j2ImxL4HDhjMX ELDmtURxMMMZ6q/oP9Ei4qnf3/dJL8BMM4QRUdf+WaKruuBWNEhB1aI566HIJOgb4YvS 9/fqNG8ZhbMiUUEJArb4EkqgLWIbhkN7IQ6/R6oxsYyZdtfLi7V4tD1JY//NRh76YUS6 La6aZpnC/G9go9bvlwfmUUGP0gNd2qrV4Gkb+JIMZSh4UkUF9tBLcKW2h3AOSqgDwx/Y UkbA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.230.102 with SMTP id sx6mr19707868vdc.15.1380564596449; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:09:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.98.196 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:09:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5249A90C.3070802@dmj.nu> References: <20130927222109.GD23408@server> <5246079E.7090406@gmail.com> <20130927223916.GE23408@server> <52460D42.2080109@gmail.com> <52461056.9020604@gmail.com> <5246BE35.3010408@libertytrek.org> <5246D674.1010806@hadt.biz> <5246F07F.8050100@gmail.com> <524716C0.203@hadt.biz> <52471D5B.2020506@gmail.com> <52483E04.4040900@libertytrek.org> <52484627.1020102@gmail.com> <5248656F.3060602@libertytrek.org> <524870B4.8090905@gmail.com> <5249A90C.3070802@dmj.nu> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 02:09:56 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01 From: Mark David Dumlao To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 83b5e9d5-f08a-4d45-b21e-c87fa247070f X-Archives-Hash: c46f9101ada58e992e0216ab48619ba4 On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Dan Johansson wrote: > On 29.09.2013 20:25, Dale wrote: >> Simple, I have never had to resize / or /boot before. I have had to >> resize /usr, /var and /home several times tho. THAT is the reason. For >> me, it doesn't matter if it is rational to YOU or not. I am the one >> doing things on my puter not you or anyone else. If the init thingy >> fails, that will be me staring at a error message, not you. > > I agree to 100% with you Dale. I have /usr on a separate LVM partition > (I only have, as you, / and /boot on regular partitions) to be able to > easily extend it (which I have been forced to do a few times). > And as my VG-partition starts directly after the /-partition I am not in > the position to extend / to "engulf" all the data in /usr. Peeps using LVM: If, right now, you were forced to boot into /, without /usr, would you be able to manually assemble your usr using pv/vg/lv tools - without the assistance of udev? The gentoo warning is simply saying that they don't have enough people to devote to debugging problems where that happens. So if you so love your / rescue systems, you can make a very early init script - before udev - that mounts /usr. And you could host it on an overlay if you want or submit it into gentoo bugzilla as a proposal. It isn't unsupported in that they're going to make sure it doesn't work. It's unsupported in that they don't have the resources to fix bugs caused by that. -- This email is: [ ] actionable [x] fyi [ ] social Response needed: [ ] yes [x] up to you [ ] no Time-sensitive: [ ] immediate [ ] soon [x] none