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From: Mark David Dumlao <madumlao@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:42:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG2nJkMhb-xDOg5dpAATJk6icgefY-J10ac+WKsVFRp9V6ZXVw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5141D887.7010200@gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 14/03/2013 15:40, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
>> On 03/14/2013 09:28 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>> Or, try remove LDAP, NIS and PAM support for auth from a RHEL machine to
>>> test if it works without those things in place.
>>> RHEL? Impossible.
>>> Gentoo? Trivially easy.
>> "Trivially easy", of course, means an emerge -euDNtv world && emerge
>> -ctv && revdep-rebuild -i && revdep-rebuild ... ehehehe
>>
>> I dunno, it might actually be easier to setup the said distros in a VM.
>> And if those configurations don't work, you shouldn't have to support
>> them, eh? ;)
>>
>
>
> Well, devs tend to ask questions like "would this thing X work in
> practice? or do I have to munge my code?"
>

No, that doesn't make sense. The situation you presented above was
removing "impossible to remove" components on an OS and asking if the
software still works. You don't get to call that a vaild test
environment if the test environment itself doesn't work in the first
place.

> They want to know if shipped code supports something. And, I don't get
> to say "I'm sorry, I cannot support Centos 4 on this"
>
> Business has a stock answer "Well, find a way to make it work."

Actually, business has a stock answer of "Supported on Windows XP or
later, Mac OS X some cat, Red Hat version foo, SuSE...."

In general they target actual known platforms, and YES they get to say
"I cannot support Centos 4 on this" all the time.

> Flexibility is the key. At least with
>
> "emerge -euDNtv world && emerge -ctv && revdep-rebuild -i && revdep-rebuild"
>
> I can walk away and come back in three hours, look at logs and tell them
> to test. Plus I don't have to re-install their customer code everyt time
> from scratch (said code *never*, of course, coming with anything
> resembling a MakeFile)
>

Hoo boy what I would give for -euDNtv to take less than 3 hours on my setup ;)


  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-15  5:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-14  8:15 [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros Dale
2013-03-14  8:44 ` Rafa Griman
2013-03-14  8:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-03-14  9:06   ` Dale
2013-03-14  9:14 ` William Kenworthy
2013-03-14 12:12   ` Pandu Poluan
2013-03-14 13:28     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-14 13:40       ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-03-14 14:02         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-15  5:42           ` Mark David Dumlao [this message]
2013-03-14 14:43         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-03-15  5:47           ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-03-15  9:26             ` Neil Bothwick
2013-03-15 10:29               ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-03-14 14:31     ` Paul Hartman
2013-03-14 14:59       ` William Kenworthy
2013-03-14 11:22 ` Michael Hampicke
2013-03-14 11:35   ` Francisco Ares
2013-03-14 11:29 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-03-14 11:36   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-14 12:05     ` Pandu Poluan
2013-03-14 12:31     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-03-14 13:20       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-14 15:18       ` Bruce Hill
2013-03-14 15:17   ` Bruce Hill
2013-03-14 15:23     ` Email encodings (was Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros ) Michael Mol
2013-03-14 20:19       ` João Matos
2013-03-15 11:55       ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-03-15 17:36         ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-15 20:06           ` Mick
2013-03-15 20:34             ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-03-15 23:39               ` Mick
2013-03-15 23:42               ` Michael Mol
2013-03-16 13:43           ` Stroller
2013-03-16 19:03             ` Mysterious Mose
2013-03-18 20:38               ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-18 21:14                 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-18 21:26                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-18 23:16                     ` Michael Mol
2013-03-19  0:05                       ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-19  1:16                         ` Michael Mol
2013-03-19 21:09                           ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-19 21:37                             ` Michael Mol
2013-03-18 23:38                 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-03-19  0:15                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-19  0:27                     ` Neil Bothwick
2013-03-19  0:45                     ` Michael Mol
2013-03-19 21:10                       ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-14 14:07 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros Grant Edwards
2013-03-14 14:12   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-15  5:31     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-03-14 22:41   ` Dale
2013-03-14 23:37     ` Mateusz Kowalczyk
2013-03-14 23:52       ` Dale
2013-03-15  0:28         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-03-15  0:31         ` Mateusz Kowalczyk
2013-03-15  1:05           ` William Kenworthy
2013-03-15  3:20           ` Pandu Poluan
2013-03-15  7:50         ` Walter Dnes
2013-03-15 13:24         ` Nuno Silva
2013-03-15 17:32           ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-16 13:40             ` Stroller
2013-03-18 20:21               ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-18 21:18                 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-18 21:38                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-18 23:28                     ` Michael Mol
2013-03-19  0:10                       ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-19  1:38                         ` Michael Mol
2013-03-16 17:07         ` Chris Walters
2013-03-15 14:39     ` Grant Edwards
2013-03-16  6:44 ` [gentoo-user] " Joshua Murphy
2013-03-17 10:17 ` Marc Stürmer

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