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From: Mark David Dumlao <madumlao@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:29:17 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAG2nJkM+DLFoSbz0sUzChnDWZKLRwNeS6o1NE_RZQdGVvtu4rg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130315092649.27cc7cef@digimed.co.uk>

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:47:49 +0800, Mark David Dumlao wrote:
>
>> > There's no need to rebuild everything, and those other flags make no
>> > sense when using -e. Generally you only need
>> >
>> > emerge -uaD --changed-use @world
>> >
>>
>> I know that, in general principle. But it's a test environment. I'd
>> assume stricter standards of "purity" there than elsewhere. simply
>> going by changed-use can break some library dependencies. We need to
>> use depclean to remove build deps junk after the emptytree, and we're
>> revdep-rebuilding twice in case the depclean borked something. (To be
>> really strict, revdep-rebuild should be repeated until it stops
>> building things...)
>
> portage should handle that itself nowadays, but it doesn't hurt to run
> revdep-rebuild to be sure. You could use -N instead of --changed-use but I
> still think -e is unnecessary.
>>
>> Heck in some setups empty-tree will simply fail thanks to circular
>> deps of the global use flags and you'll need manual intervention to
>> bootstrap a package with less USE...
>
> And that's a good reason to not use -e. If you do use -e, none of the
> other options make any sense, -u -D and -N are meaningless if the system
> thinks nothing is installed and there's no point in using -t without -a
> or -p, and with -e it would generate so much output I'm not sure many
> people would bother reading it all.

I'm pretty sure I just recycled the emptytree + deep/newuse advice
from one of the docs. I see it mentioned in the wiki at least.

http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Freeing_Up_Disk_Space

Honestly, though, it's just a case of muscle memory at work. Usually I
just -uDNtv everything and just add options after that like -1, -a...


  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-15 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-14  8:15 [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros Dale
2013-03-14  8:44 ` Rafa Griman
2013-03-14  8:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-03-14  9:06   ` Dale
2013-03-14  9:14 ` William Kenworthy
2013-03-14 12:12   ` Pandu Poluan
2013-03-14 13:28     ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-14 13:40       ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-03-14 14:02         ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-15  5:42           ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-03-14 14:43         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-03-15  5:47           ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-03-15  9:26             ` Neil Bothwick
2013-03-15 10:29               ` Mark David Dumlao [this message]
2013-03-14 14:31     ` Paul Hartman
2013-03-14 14:59       ` William Kenworthy
2013-03-14 11:22 ` Michael Hampicke
2013-03-14 11:35   ` Francisco Ares
2013-03-14 11:29 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-03-14 11:36   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-14 12:05     ` Pandu Poluan
2013-03-14 12:31     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-03-14 13:20       ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-14 15:18       ` Bruce Hill
2013-03-14 15:17   ` Bruce Hill
2013-03-14 15:23     ` Email encodings (was Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo speed comparison to other distros ) Michael Mol
2013-03-14 20:19       ` João Matos
2013-03-15 11:55       ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-03-15 17:36         ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-15 20:06           ` Mick
2013-03-15 20:34             ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-03-15 23:39               ` Mick
2013-03-15 23:42               ` Michael Mol
2013-03-16 13:43           ` Stroller
2013-03-16 19:03             ` Mysterious Mose
2013-03-18 20:38               ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-18 21:14                 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-18 21:26                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-18 23:16                     ` Michael Mol
2013-03-19  0:05                       ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-19  1:16                         ` Michael Mol
2013-03-19 21:09                           ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-19 21:37                             ` Michael Mol
2013-03-18 23:38                 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-03-19  0:15                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-19  0:27                     ` Neil Bothwick
2013-03-19  0:45                     ` Michael Mol
2013-03-19 21:10                       ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-14 14:07 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo speed comparison to other distros Grant Edwards
2013-03-14 14:12   ` Alan McKinnon
2013-03-15  5:31     ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-03-14 22:41   ` Dale
2013-03-14 23:37     ` Mateusz Kowalczyk
2013-03-14 23:52       ` Dale
2013-03-15  0:28         ` Neil Bothwick
2013-03-15  0:31         ` Mateusz Kowalczyk
2013-03-15  1:05           ` William Kenworthy
2013-03-15  3:20           ` Pandu Poluan
2013-03-15  7:50         ` Walter Dnes
2013-03-15 13:24         ` Nuno Silva
2013-03-15 17:32           ` [Bulk] " Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-16 13:40             ` Stroller
2013-03-18 20:21               ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-18 21:18                 ` Michael Mol
2013-03-18 21:38                   ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-18 23:28                     ` Michael Mol
2013-03-19  0:10                       ` Kevin Chadwick
2013-03-19  1:38                         ` Michael Mol
2013-03-16 17:07         ` Chris Walters
2013-03-15 14:39     ` Grant Edwards
2013-03-16  6:44 ` [gentoo-user] " Joshua Murphy
2013-03-17 10:17 ` Marc Stürmer

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