* [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
@ 2011-12-20 17:31 LinuxIsOne
2011-12-20 17:34 ` Michael Mol
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From: LinuxIsOne @ 2011-12-20 17:31 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Hi,
From where the word gentoo came into existence?
Thanks.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-20 17:31 [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came? LinuxIsOne
@ 2011-12-20 17:34 ` Michael Mol
2011-12-20 17:43 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-12-20 17:54 ` [gentoo-user] " LinuxIsOne
2011-12-20 18:06 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-12-21 12:28 ` Daniel Troeder
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From: Michael Mol @ 2011-12-20 17:34 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM, LinuxIsOne <reallife@hmamail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> From where the word gentoo came into existence?
Gentoo is a species of penguin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_Penguin
--
:wq
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* [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-20 17:34 ` Michael Mol
@ 2011-12-20 17:43 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-12-20 17:54 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-20 17:59 ` Dan Johansson
2011-12-20 17:54 ` [gentoo-user] " LinuxIsOne
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From: Nikos Chantziaras @ 2011-12-20 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 12/20/2011 07:34 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM, LinuxIsOne<reallife@hmamail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> From where the word gentoo came into existence?
>
> Gentoo is a species of penguin.
<troll_mode>
No. Gentoo is an anagram for "net goo". Furthermore, "Gentoo Linux" is
an anagram for "Tux, go online". This why "Gentoo" was chosen.
</troll_mode>
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* Re: [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-20 17:34 ` Michael Mol
2011-12-20 17:43 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
@ 2011-12-20 17:54 ` LinuxIsOne
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From: LinuxIsOne @ 2011-12-20 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gentoo is a species of penguin.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentoo_Penguin
Oh I see.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-20 17:43 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
@ 2011-12-20 17:54 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-20 17:59 ` Dan Johansson
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From: LinuxIsOne @ 2011-12-20 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
> <troll_mode>
> No. Gentoo is an anagram for "net goo". Furthermore, "Gentoo Linux" is an
> anagram for "Tux, go online". This why "Gentoo" was chosen.
> </troll_mode>
;)--
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-20 17:43 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-12-20 17:54 ` LinuxIsOne
@ 2011-12-20 17:59 ` Dan Johansson
2011-12-20 18:02 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-20 21:15 ` Dale
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From: Dan Johansson @ 2011-12-20 17:59 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tuesday 20 December 2011 19.43:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
> On 12/20/2011 07:34 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM, LinuxIsOne<reallife@hmamail.com> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> From where the word gentoo came into existence?
> >
> > Gentoo is a species of penguin.
>
> <troll_mode>
> No. Gentoo is an anagram for "net goo". Furthermore, "Gentoo Linux" is
> an anagram for "Tux, go online". This why "Gentoo" was chosen.
> </troll_mode>
Stupid me, I thought that is was because of this "They (Gentoo penguin) are
the fastest underwater swimming penguins, reaching speeds of 36 km/h. Gentoo
are adapted to very harsh cold climates."
--
Dan Johansson, <http://www.dmj.nu>
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-20 17:59 ` Dan Johansson
@ 2011-12-20 18:02 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-20 21:15 ` Dale
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From: LinuxIsOne @ 2011-12-20 18:02 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Dan Johansson <Dan.Johansson@dmj.nu> wrote:
> Stupid me, I thought that is was because of this "They (Gentoo penguin) are
> the fastest underwater swimming penguins, reaching speeds of 36 km/h. Gentoo
> are adapted to very harsh cold climates."
I liked the word 'Gentoo', cool!
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* Re: [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-20 17:31 [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came? LinuxIsOne
2011-12-20 17:34 ` Michael Mol
@ 2011-12-20 18:06 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-12-20 18:12 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-21 21:59 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-12-21 12:28 ` Daniel Troeder
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From: Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2011-12-20 18:06 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
onomatopoeia
gentoo linux in named after gentoo penguins.
Those are small and fast.
They are named after the sound they make if you bring one to Tour d'Argent and put it into the duck press.
--
#163933
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* Re: [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-20 18:06 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
@ 2011-12-20 18:12 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-21 21:59 ` Alan McKinnon
1 sibling, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: LinuxIsOne @ 2011-12-20 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:36 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
<volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
> onomatopoeia
> gentoo linux in named after gentoo penguins.
> Those are small and fast.
> They are named after the sound they make if you bring one to Tour d'Argent and put it into the duck press.
Nice to know!
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-20 17:59 ` Dan Johansson
2011-12-20 18:02 ` LinuxIsOne
@ 2011-12-20 21:15 ` Dale
2011-12-20 21:35 ` Nikos Chantziaras
1 sibling, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2011-12-20 21:15 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Dan Johansson wrote:
> On Tuesday 20 December 2011 19.43:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>> On 12/20/2011 07:34 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM, LinuxIsOne<reallife@hmamail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> From where the word gentoo came into existence?
>>> Gentoo is a species of penguin.
>> <troll_mode>
>> No. Gentoo is an anagram for "net goo". Furthermore, "Gentoo Linux" is
>> an anagram for "Tux, go online". This why "Gentoo" was chosen.
>> </troll_mode>
> Stupid me, I thought that is was because of this "They (Gentoo penguin) are
> the fastest underwater swimming penguins, reaching speeds of 36 km/h. Gentoo
> are adapted to very harsh cold climates."
>
That was what I read somewhere too.
Dale
:-) :-)
--
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Miss the compile output? Hint:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"
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* [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-20 21:15 ` Dale
@ 2011-12-20 21:35 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-12-20 23:08 ` Mark Knecht
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From: Nikos Chantziaras @ 2011-12-20 21:35 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 12/20/2011 11:15 PM, Dale wrote:
> Dan Johansson wrote:
>> On Tuesday 20 December 2011 19.43:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>> On 12/20/2011 07:34 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM, LinuxIsOne<reallife@hmamail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> From where the word gentoo came into existence?
>>>> Gentoo is a species of penguin.
>>> <troll_mode>
>>> No. Gentoo is an anagram for "net goo". Furthermore, "Gentoo Linux" is
>>> an anagram for "Tux, go online". This why "Gentoo" was chosen.
>>> </troll_mode>
>> Stupid me, I thought that is was because of this "They (Gentoo
>> penguin) are
>> the fastest underwater swimming penguins, reaching speeds of 36 km/h.
>> Gentoo
>> are adapted to very harsh cold climates."
>>
>
> That was what I read somewhere too.
Just to point out the obvious, I was of course joking :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-20 21:35 ` Nikos Chantziaras
@ 2011-12-20 23:08 ` Mark Knecht
0 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: Mark Knecht @ 2011-12-20 23:08 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
> On 12/20/2011 11:15 PM, Dale wrote:
>>
>> Dan Johansson wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tuesday 20 December 2011 19.43:42 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 12/20/2011 07:34 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 12:31 PM, LinuxIsOne<reallife@hmamail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From where the word gentoo came into existence?
>>>>>
>>>>> Gentoo is a species of penguin.
>>>>
>>>> <troll_mode>
>>>> No. Gentoo is an anagram for "net goo". Furthermore, "Gentoo Linux" is
>>>> an anagram for "Tux, go online". This why "Gentoo" was chosen.
>>>> </troll_mode>
>>>
>>> Stupid me, I thought that is was because of this "They (Gentoo
>>> penguin) are
>>> the fastest underwater swimming penguins, reaching speeds of 36 km/h.
>>> Gentoo
>>> are adapted to very harsh cold climates."
>>>
>>
>> That was what I read somewhere too.
>
>
> Just to point out the obvious, I was of course joking :-)
>
>
Nikos, you bleeping expletive deleted, I so wanted it to be your answer.
- Mark
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* Re: [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-20 17:31 [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came? LinuxIsOne
2011-12-20 17:34 ` Michael Mol
2011-12-20 18:06 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
@ 2011-12-21 12:28 ` Daniel Troeder
2011-12-21 12:32 ` LinuxIsOne
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From: Daniel Troeder @ 2011-12-21 12:28 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On 20.12.2011 18:31, LinuxIsOne wrote:
> Hi,
>
> From where the word gentoo came into existence?
>
> Thanks.
>
Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27727
--
PGP key @ http://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de/pks/lookup?search=0xBB9D4887&op=get
# gpg --recv-keys --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net 0xBB9D4887
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* Re: [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-21 12:28 ` Daniel Troeder
@ 2011-12-21 12:32 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-21 14:59 ` Joshua Murphy
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From: LinuxIsOne @ 2011-12-21 12:32 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troeder <daniel@admin-box.com> wrote:
> Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27727
But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser!
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* Re: [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-21 12:32 ` LinuxIsOne
@ 2011-12-21 14:59 ` Joshua Murphy
2011-12-21 15:22 ` LinuxIsOne
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From: Joshua Murphy @ 2011-12-21 14:59 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, LinuxIsOne <reallife@hmamail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troeder <daniel@admin-box.com> wrote:
>
>> Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow:
>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27727
>
> But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser!
>
That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a "trusted' authority by
default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
trusted authorities.
--
Poison [BLX]
Joshua M. Murphy
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* Re: [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-21 14:59 ` Joshua Murphy
@ 2011-12-21 15:22 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-21 15:24 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-21 17:50 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
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From: LinuxIsOne @ 2011-12-21 15:22 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Joshua Murphy <poisonbl@gmail.com> wrote:
> That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a "trusted' authority by
> default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
> throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
> trusted authorities.
Oh I see.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-21 14:59 ` Joshua Murphy
2011-12-21 15:22 ` LinuxIsOne
@ 2011-12-21 15:24 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-21 16:01 ` Joshua Murphy
2011-12-21 17:50 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2 siblings, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread
From: LinuxIsOne @ 2011-12-21 15:24 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Joshua Murphy <poisonbl@gmail.com> wrote:
> That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a "trusted' authority by
> default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
> throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
> trusted authorities.
And finally there is no security risk in adding cacert.org to the
trusted authorities?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-21 15:24 ` LinuxIsOne
@ 2011-12-21 16:01 ` Joshua Murphy
2011-12-21 16:29 ` LinuxIsOne
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From: Joshua Murphy @ 2011-12-21 16:01 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:24 AM, LinuxIsOne <reallife@hmamail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Joshua Murphy <poisonbl@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a "trusted' authority by
>> default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
>> throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
>> trusted authorities.
>
> And finally there is no security risk in adding cacert.org to the
> trusted authorities?
>
Well, that's up to whether you trust that issuer not to give out
certificates to people using falsified credentials, setting up
phishing sites, etc. Any time you choose to allow a person outside of
yourself to decide who or what you trust, there's some element of
risk. That the Gentoo devs trust cacert.org to be their issuer for
b.g.o. is enough for me to feel that risk is worth it in my case, but
that's as much as I can really say.
--
Poison [BLX]
Joshua M. Murphy
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* Re: [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-21 16:01 ` Joshua Murphy
@ 2011-12-21 16:29 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-21 16:43 ` Mark Knecht
2011-12-21 16:45 ` Neil Bothwick
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From: LinuxIsOne @ 2011-12-21 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Joshua Murphy <poisonbl@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, that's up to whether you trust that issuer not to give out
> certificates to people using falsified credentials, setting up
> phishing sites, etc. Any time you choose to allow a person outside of
> yourself to decide who or what you trust, there's some element of
> risk. That the Gentoo devs trust cacert.org to be their issuer for
> b.g.o. is enough for me to feel that risk is worth it in my case, but
> that's as much as I can really say.
I am relatively new, so have not fully understood what you say. What's
b.g.o, by the way? And how do I add it in trusted ones?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-21 16:29 ` LinuxIsOne
@ 2011-12-21 16:43 ` Mark Knecht
2011-12-21 17:09 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-21 16:45 ` Neil Bothwick
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From: Mark Knecht @ 2011-12-21 16:43 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:29 AM, LinuxIsOne <reallife@hmamail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Joshua Murphy <poisonbl@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Well, that's up to whether you trust that issuer not to give out
>> certificates to people using falsified credentials, setting up
>> phishing sites, etc. Any time you choose to allow a person outside of
>> yourself to decide who or what you trust, there's some element of
>> risk. That the Gentoo devs trust cacert.org to be their issuer for
>> b.g.o. is enough for me to feel that risk is worth it in my case, but
>> that's as much as I can really say.
>
> I am relatively new, so have not fully understood what you say. What's
> b.g.o, by the way? And how do I add it in trusted ones?
>
An alternative to adding new trust certificates to your machine,
consider simply changing the URL when you run into this problem::
Secure: https://
Unsecure but fine for just viewing: http://
HTH,
Mark
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* Re: [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-21 16:29 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-21 16:43 ` Mark Knecht
@ 2011-12-21 16:45 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-12-21 17:10 ` LinuxIsOne
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From: Neil Bothwick @ 2011-12-21 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:59:33 +0530, LinuxIsOne wrote:
> I am relatively new, so have not fully understood what you say. What's
> b.g.o, by the way? And how do I add it in trusted ones?
bugs.gentoo.org
http://wiki.cacert.org/FAQ/BrowserClients
--
Neil Bothwick
GOTO: (n.) an efficient and general way of controlling a program, much
despised by academics and others whose brains have been ruined by
overexposure to Pascal.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-21 16:43 ` Mark Knecht
@ 2011-12-21 17:09 ` LinuxIsOne
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From: LinuxIsOne @ 2011-12-21 17:09 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com> wrote:
> An alternative to adding new trust certificates to your machine,
> consider simply changing the URL when you run into this problem::
> Secure: https://
> Unsecure but fine for just viewing: http://
Making http from https in that website still doesn't make it open!
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* Re: [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-21 16:45 ` Neil Bothwick
@ 2011-12-21 17:10 ` LinuxIsOne
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From: LinuxIsOne @ 2011-12-21 17:10 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>> I am relatively new, so have not fully understood what you say. What's
>> b.g.o, by the way? And how do I add it in trusted ones?
> bugs.gentoo.org
> http://wiki.cacert.org/FAQ/BrowserClients
Okay, thanks.
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* [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-21 14:59 ` Joshua Murphy
2011-12-21 15:22 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-21 15:24 ` LinuxIsOne
@ 2011-12-21 17:50 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2011-12-21 21:56 ` Alan E. Davis
2011-12-22 6:26 ` LinuxIsOne
2 siblings, 2 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: Nikos Chantziaras @ 2011-12-21 17:50 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 12/21/2011 04:59 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, LinuxIsOne<reallife@hmamail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troeder<daniel@admin-box.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow:
>>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27727
>>
>> But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser!
>>
>
> That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a "trusted' authority by
> default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
> throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
> trusted authorities.
What sucks is that you can't even get rid of the warnings even if you
accept and add the cert to Firefox. Every time you click on an
attachment in a bug, you get presented with a warning dialog again, and
again, and again, and again, until you get mad and start shooting
bunnies. That's because the domain changes with attachments (for some
reason, b.g.o. uses subdomains instead of URLs to link to attachments.)
So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in
hell when browsing b.g.o. IMO that's just stupid. I want to trust just
b.g.o, not every site out there that has a cacert certificate. Stupid.
Just stupid.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-21 17:50 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
@ 2011-12-21 21:56 ` Alan E. Davis
2011-12-21 21:58 ` Alan E. Davis
2011-12-22 6:25 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-22 6:26 ` LinuxIsOne
1 sibling, 2 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: Alan E. Davis @ 2011-12-21 21:56 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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For what it's worth (possibly nothing), from Wikipedia:
The application of *Gentoo* to the penguin is unclear, according to
the *OED<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OED>
*, which reports that *Gentoo* was an Anglo-Indian term, used as early as
1638 to distinguish Hindus <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu> in India
from Muslims, the English term originating in Portuguese *gentio* (compare "
gentile <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentile>"); in the twentieth century
the term came to be regarded as
derogatory<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derogatory>
.
This needs to be followed up. One interesting publication would be
@article{calaby1999european,
title={The European Discovery and Scientific Description of
Australian Birds.},
author={Calaby, JH},
journal={Historical Records of Australian Science},
volume={12},
number={3},
pages={313--329},
year={1999},
publisher={CSIRO}
}
to which I do not have access. However, this investigation is not
over. The scientific name of the Gentoo Penguin is *Pygoscelis papua.
It should not be difficult to find the original description?*
Alan Davis
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
> On 12/21/2011 04:59 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, LinuxIsOne<reallife@hmamail.**com<reallife@hmamail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troeder<daniel@admin-box.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow:
>>>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_**bug.cgi?id=27727<https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27727>
>>>>
>>>
>>> But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser!
>>>
>>>
>> That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a "trusted' authority by
>> default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
>> throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
>> trusted authorities.
>>
>
> What sucks is that you can't even get rid of the warnings even if you
> accept and add the cert to Firefox. Every time you click on an attachment
> in a bug, you get presented with a warning dialog again, and again, and
> again, and again, until you get mad and start shooting bunnies. That's
> because the domain changes with attachments (for some reason, b.g.o. uses
> subdomains instead of URLs to link to attachments.)
>
> So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in
> hell when browsing b.g.o. IMO that's just stupid. I want to trust just
> b.g.o, not every site out there that has a cacert certificate. Stupid.
> Just stupid.
>
>
>
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-21 21:56 ` Alan E. Davis
@ 2011-12-21 21:58 ` Alan E. Davis
2011-12-21 22:00 ` Alan E. Davis
2011-12-22 6:25 ` LinuxIsOne
1 sibling, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread
From: Alan E. Davis @ 2011-12-21 21:58 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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Actually, the full nomenclatural information is:
*Pygoscelis papua* (J.R.
Forster<http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/J.R._Forster>,
1781). So there is a publication by J. R. Forster in 1781, describing this
penguin.
Alan
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Alan E. Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com> wrote:
> For what it's worth (possibly nothing), from Wikipedia:
>
> The application of *Gentoo* to the penguin is unclear, according to the *
> OED <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OED>*, which reports that *Gentoo* was
> an Anglo-Indian term, used as early as 1638 to distinguish Hindus<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu>in India from Muslims, the English term originating in Portuguese
> *gentio* (compare "gentile <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentile>"); in
> the twentieth century the term came to be regarded as derogatory<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derogatory>
> .
>
> This needs to be followed up. One interesting publication would be
>
> @article{calaby1999european,
> title={The European Discovery and Scientific Description of Australian Birds.},
> author={Calaby, JH},
> journal={Historical Records of Australian Science},
> volume={12},
> number={3},
> pages={313--329},
> year={1999},
> publisher={CSIRO}
> }
>
> to which I do not have access. However, this investigation is not over. The scientific name of the Gentoo Penguin is *Pygoscelis papua. It should not be difficult to find the original description?*
>
>
> Alan Davis
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de>wrote:
>
>> On 12/21/2011 04:59 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, LinuxIsOne<reallife@hmamail.**com<reallife@hmamail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troeder<daniel@admin-box.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow:
>>>>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_**bug.cgi?id=27727<https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27727>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a "trusted' authority by
>>> default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
>>> throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
>>> trusted authorities.
>>>
>>
>> What sucks is that you can't even get rid of the warnings even if you
>> accept and add the cert to Firefox. Every time you click on an attachment
>> in a bug, you get presented with a warning dialog again, and again, and
>> again, and again, until you get mad and start shooting bunnies. That's
>> because the domain changes with attachments (for some reason, b.g.o. uses
>> subdomains instead of URLs to link to attachments.)
>>
>> So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in
>> hell when browsing b.g.o. IMO that's just stupid. I want to trust just
>> b.g.o, not every site out there that has a cacert certificate. Stupid.
>> Just stupid.
>>
>>
>>
>
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* Re: [gentoo-user] From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-20 18:06 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-12-20 18:12 ` LinuxIsOne
@ 2011-12-21 21:59 ` Alan McKinnon
1 sibling, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: Alan McKinnon @ 2011-12-21 21:59 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tue, 20 Dec 2011 19:06:12 +0100
Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com> wrote:
> onomatopoeia
>
> gentoo linux in named after gentoo penguins.
>
> Those are small and fast.
>
> They are named after the sound they make if you bring one to Tour
> d'Argent and put it into the duck press.
>
>
Cape Town prostitutes are known locally as gentoos
Seriously.
:-)
--
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-21 21:58 ` Alan E. Davis
@ 2011-12-21 22:00 ` Alan E. Davis
0 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: Alan E. Davis @ 2011-12-21 22:00 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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Furthermore, the following publication is at least close enough to start
on. I don't have access today.
@article{forster1781natural,
title={Natural History and Description of the Tyger-Cat of the Cape
of Good Hope. By John Reinhold Forster, LL. DFR and AS},
author={Forster, J.R.},
journal={Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London},
volume={71},
pages={1--6},
year={1781},
publisher={JSTOR}
}
Alan
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Alan E. Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com> wrote:
> Actually, the full nomenclatural information is:
>
> *Pygoscelis papua* (J.R. Forster<http://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/J.R._Forster>,
> 1781). So there is a publication by J. R. Forster in 1781, describing this
> penguin.
>
> Alan
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Alan E. Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> For what it's worth (possibly nothing), from Wikipedia:
>>
>> The application of *Gentoo* to the penguin is unclear, according to the *
>> OED <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OED>*, which reports that *Gentoo* was
>> an Anglo-Indian term, used as early as 1638 to distinguish Hindus<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu>in India from Muslims, the English term originating in Portuguese
>> *gentio* (compare "gentile <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentile>"); in
>> the twentieth century the term came to be regarded as derogatory<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derogatory>
>> .
>>
>> This needs to be followed up. One interesting publication would be
>>
>> @article{calaby1999european,
>> title={The European Discovery and Scientific Description of Australian Birds.},
>> author={Calaby, JH},
>> journal={Historical Records of Australian Science},
>> volume={12},
>> number={3},
>> pages={313--329},
>> year={1999},
>> publisher={CSIRO}
>> }
>>
>> to which I do not have access. However, this investigation is not over. The scientific name of the Gentoo Penguin is *Pygoscelis papua. It should not be difficult to find the original description?*
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan Davis
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de>wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/21/2011 04:59 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, LinuxIsOne<reallife@hmamail.**com<reallife@hmamail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troeder<daniel@admin-box.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow:
>>>>>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_**bug.cgi?id=27727<https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27727>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a "trusted' authority by
>>>> default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
>>>> throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
>>>> trusted authorities.
>>>>
>>>
>>> What sucks is that you can't even get rid of the warnings even if you
>>> accept and add the cert to Firefox. Every time you click on an attachment
>>> in a bug, you get presented with a warning dialog again, and again, and
>>> again, and again, until you get mad and start shooting bunnies. That's
>>> because the domain changes with attachments (for some reason, b.g.o. uses
>>> subdomains instead of URLs to link to attachments.)
>>>
>>> So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in
>>> hell when browsing b.g.o. IMO that's just stupid. I want to trust just
>>> b.g.o, not every site out there that has a cacert certificate. Stupid.
>>> Just stupid.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-21 21:56 ` Alan E. Davis
2011-12-21 21:58 ` Alan E. Davis
@ 2011-12-22 6:25 ` LinuxIsOne
1 sibling, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: LinuxIsOne @ 2011-12-22 6:25 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Alan E. Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com> wrote:
> For what it's worth (possibly nothing), from Wikipedia:
>
> The application of Gentoo to the penguin is unclear, according to the OED,
> which reports that Gentoo was an Anglo-Indian term, used as early as 1638 to
> distinguish Hindus in India from Muslims, the English term originating in
> Portuguese gentio (compare "gentile"); in the twentieth century the term
> came to be regarded as derogatory.
>
> This needs to be followed up. One interesting publication would be
>
> @article{calaby1999european,
> title={The European Discovery and Scientific Description of Australian
> Birds.},
> author={Calaby, JH},
> journal={Historical Records of Australian Science},
> volume={12},
> number={3},
> pages={313--329},
> year={1999},
> publisher={CSIRO}
> }
>
>
> to which I do not have access. However, this investigation is not over.
> The scientific name of the Gentoo Penguin is Pygoscelis papua. It should not
> be difficult to find the original description?
Nice Davis!
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-21 17:50 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-12-21 21:56 ` Alan E. Davis
@ 2011-12-22 6:26 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-22 20:14 ` Alan E. Davis
2011-12-23 19:23 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Accepting as trusted b.g.o. certificates [was: From where the word 'gentoo' came?] Mick
1 sibling, 2 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: LinuxIsOne @ 2011-12-22 6:26 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
> So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in hell
> when browsing b.g.o. IMO that's just stupid. I want to trust just b.g.o,
> not every site out there that has a cacert certificate.
Okay so how do I add only b.g.o of the cacert.org and not others? Can
you tell me the step by step process?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-22 6:26 ` LinuxIsOne
@ 2011-12-22 20:14 ` Alan E. Davis
2011-12-23 11:18 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-23 19:23 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Accepting as trusted b.g.o. certificates [was: From where the word 'gentoo' came?] Mick
1 sibling, 1 reply; 33+ messages in thread
From: Alan E. Davis @ 2011-12-22 20:14 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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[ I'm not sure what is the subject of the thread anymore. ]
As a small issue about the source of the name Gentoo, even though the
Gentoo Penguin was named as *Pygoscelis papua* by Forster, that does not
really help us to know where the English Common name came from. Forster
apparently worked in South Africa, so that may help.
Alan
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came?
2011-12-22 20:14 ` Alan E. Davis
@ 2011-12-23 11:18 ` LinuxIsOne
0 siblings, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: LinuxIsOne @ 2011-12-23 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:44 AM, Alan E. Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com> wrote:
> [ I'm not sure what is the subject of the thread anymore. ]
I bet you saw the subject line of this thread.
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* [gentoo-user] Re: Accepting as trusted b.g.o. certificates [was: From where the word 'gentoo' came?]
2011-12-22 6:26 ` LinuxIsOne
2011-12-22 20:14 ` Alan E. Davis
@ 2011-12-23 19:23 ` Mick
1 sibling, 0 replies; 33+ messages in thread
From: Mick @ 2011-12-23 19:23 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Thursday 22 Dec 2011 06:26:53 LinuxIsOne wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
> > So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in
> > hell when browsing b.g.o. IMO that's just stupid. I want to trust just
> > b.g.o, not every site out there that has a cacert certificate.
>
> Okay so how do I add only b.g.o of the cacert.org and not others? Can
> you tell me the step by step process?
A browser (e.g. Firefox) will pop up a warning that the particular website
(b.g.o.) certificate or the CA root certificate that has signed the website
certificate is not trusted. Under Technical Details it says:
"sec_error_untrusted_issuer"
So FF does not 'trust' CACert as the issuer of legitimate certificates, because
CACert's root certificate is not stored in FF's list of SSL Certification
Authorities. If you go to Preferences/Advanced/Encryption/View
Certificates/Authorities, you'll see that CACert is not in there.
At that moment you need to click on the relevant buttons of the warning
message and ask the browser to accept the certificate. There should also be
some tick box asking the browser to store the certificate as trusted
permanently.
If you click to add this exception permanently you can click on View to see
the details of the SSL certificate chain. There are 3 certificates in the
bundle:
1. CA Cert Signing Authority
The details tell you that this is the Root CA (self-signed). This is used to
sign the second certificate.
2. CAcert Class 3 Root
The details tell you that this is a Class 3 Root certificate which is used in
turn to sign the b.g.o. website certificate.
3. bugs.gentoo.org
This is the website certificate signed by 2 above.
Now if you click to permanently store the b.g.o. certificate, FF will store not
just certificate number 3, but the complete chain of signatory certificates.
You can examine these if you go to View Certificates and then Servers.
However, this chain of certificates does not implicitly trust certificates 1 and
2 above - unless you import these from the CACert website. In that case they
will show under the tab called Others, because you have imported these
yourself. Having done that, then any website that has a certificate signed by
CACert will be accepted automatically and you won't be warned out the Issuer
not being a Trusted CA.
Not all browsers are the same or choose to behave the same way on this matter,
but these are the basic principles.
--
Regards,
Mick
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