From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RZQ56-0004tw-Bs for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:47:24 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE76221C08E; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:47:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pz0-f53.google.com (mail-pz0-f53.google.com [209.85.210.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE1EF21C057 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 16:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by dady9 with SMTP id y9so5866568dad.40 for ; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 08:45:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2MXhAAVnEZj4dp1Pl7ow2Ez5/2OMe0/9ivafuZccDao=; b=mL2EjIm9xfUpgKEFnFmiNEBzxiLIIkIQo9MDA55US4dovY7tDcGAiR4HA43Bdr5gMf /3eBrx0qA13zLxoSMBgKjQ1VN7zQkeXN+ZFouCRWDiu2G+qxrPLI0MszLadS9mZXjij4 yU9ETh4jioWu9czegKNjjn0OHYOAlnhlQ+Xoc= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.68.212.68 with SMTP id ni4mr17233663pbc.44.1323535558021; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 08:45:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.58.135 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Dec 2011 08:45:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201112082009.36698.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20111208221108.GF13528@eisen.lan> Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 11:45:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] can one tell me: gentoo vs opensuse From: LinuxIsOne To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 082889b1-3185-439d-9488-e7ffbe149c0d X-Archives-Hash: dcbd8f350b971b6ee03eb5369764fa78 On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote: > I don't mean to scare you, but most Linux distros work differently. > First, there might be differences in how they install a package. There's > RPM, apt, pacman, portage, and others. > Second, there are differences in the "init" system. Gentoo users OpenRC, > Ubuntu uses upstart, and others use SysVinit, systemd, and so on. "init" system? I am first time hearing this, may be, I would read it later or sometimes about what is it.... > And even you can't guarantee that the kernels are the same. Many distros > introduce their own distro-specific patches to the vanilla kernel. With > Gentoo, it's even more complicated, as most experienced Gentooroids will > configure and compile their own kernels. > (The last paragraph, however, is the reason why Gentoo is so secure: > attackers can't be sure that the vuln they're targeting is located at the > right spot, *if* the vuln exists at all. Throw in hardened patches like > GrSecurity, PAX, and SELinux... well, you get the idea.) Oh I see. Thanks for clarification Pandu. > ((No wonder NASDAQ uses Gentoo for its infrastructure)) Great to hear.