Re: [gentoo-user] Remove rust completely

[Mansour Al Akeel <mansour.alakeel@gmail.com>]

Cal, like I said, gentoo has always been about choices. I am not
blaming anyone for anything. At the end of the day, it is open source,
and the work done by the community is highly appreciated.
I am sorry it was understood the other way around.

The frustration level grows when I have too many build tools that take
forever to build, and there's no way around it.

And yes, like Grant said, a choice would be to just go with
firefox-bin if not rust-bin.

Thank you all


On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 10:03 PM cal <cal@mail.meme.technology> wrote:
>
> On 5/11/22 18:41, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:
> > Miles,
> > Thank you for your response. The idea of "getting harder and harder"
> > is hard to accept. Gentoo has always been about having choice> Firefox requires rust, but is there a way to disable this ?
> > There must be another way to let the user decide if they need it or not !
> At the distribution level, sure, but the Gentoo package maintainers
> don't necessarily have the authority to control what upstream software
> developers are doing.  I continue to find it perplexing how many people
> on this list hold responsible the Gentoo packaging for the
> decision-making of upstream developers.
>
> Significant core components of Firefox are written in Rust, and have
> been for years.  Whether or not this is a good thing is in the eyes of
> the beholder, but it has nothing to do with the Gentoo packaging -- it's
> a Mozilla decision.
> >
> > And yes, the compile time is one of the factors in not wanting it on
> > my system. The second factor is a natural reaction toward feeling that
> > I am forced to have it.
> > Another reason is the growing collection of compilers and development
> > tools and their build time (gcc, bin-utils, llvm, clang ... etc.) and
> > now rust.
> >
> > Firefox itself takes a lot of time to build, and if rust is a must
> > have, then maybe it is time for me to look into something else. I know
> > there's firefox-bin, and if it doesn't need rust, then maybe it is an
> > option.
> >
> > On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 8:55 PM Miles Malone
> > <m.malone@homicidalteddybear.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> If your *reason* for wanting to remove rust is the compile time, bear
> >> in mind there is also a rust-bin package these days.  There are an
> >> increasingly large number of major packages that have rust as a
> >> dependency, so it's getting harder and harder to get away from.
> >> Obviously anything from the mozilla foundation, but there's a lot of
> >> others too.
> >>
> >> Miles
> >>
> >> On Thu, 12 May 2022 at 10:25, Julien Roy <julien@jroy.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> You need to remove all packages that depend on virtual/rust
> >>> To see which ones do, run `emerge -pv --depclean virtual/rust`
> >>>
> >>> Julien
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> May 11, 2022, 20:22 by mansour.alakeel@gmail.com:
> >>>
> >>> I am trying to avoid installing rust and prevent emerge --update
> >>> --deep world from installing it again.
> >>> How to do this ?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
>
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