From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RdUEq-00082C-Vw for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:02:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CECE721C204; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 200B321C1B0 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbds1 with SMTP id ds1so13638451wgb.10 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:59:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=AyKA8hIW0bKttfJbcng236avO0x5vSsx3SAgyDDu1g8=; b=iVhhX+g3EuHz+QUG5pMGsZnA+J4Frqjn/CxwwDFQ3hCSoTHsjc87UIRwkKX0kQGCGV 0xdQNwnepVlBSfZnBQcCgL4vUIgwCsJ5Zi/fKVspS43mifLbHfxxDD1Pg5gFr+Yu2Srk FvXJyLu9PZsjpWQy4/ehUtpXt5oRIq0f01/so= Received: by 10.227.200.71 with SMTP id ev7mr7966042wbb.24.1324504751195; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:59:11 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.12.84 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:58:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4EF1D106.9000206@admin-box.com> From: "Alan E. Davis" Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:58:50 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151751110032c87b04b4a14b2f X-Archives-Salt: 53b600db-0762-4e8e-9b40-cb66f7210688 X-Archives-Hash: c15e9a62a06de8d3c2a7931e171162c2 --00151751110032c87b04b4a14b2f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Actually, the full nomenclatural information is: *Pygoscelis papua* (J.R. Forster, 1781). So there is a publication by J. R. Forster in 1781, describing this penguin. Alan On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > For what it's worth (possibly nothing), from Wikipedia: > > The application of *Gentoo* to the penguin is unclear, according to the * > OED *, which reports that *Gentoo* was > an Anglo-Indian term, used as early as 1638 to distinguish Hindusin India from Muslims, the English term originating in Portuguese > *gentio* (compare "gentile "); in > the twentieth century the term came to be regarded as derogatory > . > > This needs to be followed up. One interesting publication would be > > @article{calaby1999european, > title={The European Discovery and Scientific Description of Australian Birds.}, > author={Calaby, JH}, > journal={Historical Records of Australian Science}, > volume={12}, > number={3}, > pages={313--329}, > year={1999}, > publisher={CSIRO} > } > > to which I do not have access. However, this investigation is not over. The scientific name of the Gentoo Penguin is *Pygoscelis papua. It should not be difficult to find the original description?* > > > Alan Davis > > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> On 12/21/2011 04:59 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, LinuxIsOne> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troeder >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow: >>>>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_**bug.cgi?id=27727 >>>>> >>>> >>>> But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser! >>>> >>>> >>> That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a "trusted' authority by >>> default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate >>> throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your >>> trusted authorities. >>> >> >> What sucks is that you can't even get rid of the warnings even if you >> accept and add the cert to Firefox. Every time you click on an attachment >> in a bug, you get presented with a warning dialog again, and again, and >> again, and again, until you get mad and start shooting bunnies. That's >> because the domain changes with attachments (for some reason, b.g.o. uses >> subdomains instead of URLs to link to attachments.) >> >> So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in >> hell when browsing b.g.o. IMO that's just stupid. I want to trust just >> b.g.o, not every site out there that has a cacert certificate. Stupid. >> Just stupid. >> >> >> > --00151751110032c87b04b4a14b2f Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Actually, the full nomenclatural information is:

Pygoscelis papua= (J.R. Forster, 1781).=A0 So there is = a publication by J. R. Forster in 1781, describing this penguin.=A0

Alan

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM,= Alan E. Davis <l= ngndvs@gmail.com> wrote:
For what it's worth (possibly nothing), from Wikipedia:

The application of Gentoo to the penguin is = unclear, according to the OED, which reports that Gentoo was an Anglo-Indian term, used as early as 1638 to distinguish Hind= us in India from Muslims, the English term originating in Portuguese gentio (compare "gentile"); in the twentieth c= entury the term came to be regarded as derogatory.

This needs to be followed up.=A0 One interesting publication woul= d be

@article{calaby1999europea=
n,
  title=3D{The European Discovery and Scientific Description of Australian =
Birds.},
  author=3D{Calaby, JH},
  journal=3D{Historical Records of Australian Science},
  volume=3D{12},
  number=3D{3},
  pages=3D{313--329},
  year=3D{1999},
  publisher=3D{CSIRO}
}


to which I do not have access.  However, this inve=
stigation is not over.  The scientific name of the Gentoo Penguin is Pyg=
oscelis papua. It should not be difficult to find the original description?=





Alan Davis

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Nikos Ch= antziaras <realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
On 12/21/2011 04:59 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote:
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, LinuxIsOne<reallife@hmamail.com> =A0wrote:=
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troeder<daniel@admin-box.com> =A0wrote:
Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D27727

But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser!


That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a "trusted' authority by
default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
trusted authorities.

What sucks is that you can't even get rid of the warnings even if you a= ccept and add the cert to Firefox. =A0Every time you click on an attachment= in a bug, you get presented with a warning dialog again, and again, and ag= ain, and again, until you get mad and start shooting bunnies. =A0That's= because the domain changes with attachments (for some reason, b.g.o. uses = subdomains instead of URLs to link to attachments.)

So it's either add cace= rt.org to your trusted authorities, or live in hell when browsing b.g.o= . =A0IMO that's just stupid. =A0I want to trust just b.g.o, not every s= ite out there that has a cacert certificate. =A0Stupid. =A0Just stupid.




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