From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RdUHf-0000Uo-Cc for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:05:11 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1558C21C212; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:04:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E25021C1F7 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:00:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhq2 with SMTP id hq2so2575760wib.40 for ; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:00:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=xZ2pw+4svIS8CdLuiUEP2YU+CztxCcKXWUhBQA+Ry2o=; b=k1xHN35v40rzUaVLc9RU/Xrs0QglYABJBX1UjUGWtZ94BjuG7Fq9gaOBnCAIuvEAeP ucgUaPXfrdvW5pk0ALZ1jr+bKmYd63814h0RcR14qLFUs9/A7Kvtd9fLD/B69fsF/1mw rWDIgtmZ4AQk5WQxaONG1vXfsru4cjgVQ8omY= Received: by 10.180.90.40 with SMTP id bt8mr17936042wib.4.1324504858268; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:00:58 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.12.84 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:00:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4EF1D106.9000206@admin-box.com> From: "Alan E. Davis" Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:00:37 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: From where the word 'gentoo' came? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043be05e94937404b4a1511c X-Archives-Salt: 096c7592-e0a1-402c-bd6c-52458fa8a593 X-Archives-Hash: bf4c91012ade25cc06c72de93554a78d --f46d043be05e94937404b4a1511c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Furthermore, the following publication is at least close enough to start on. I don't have access today. @article{forster1781natural, title={Natural History and Description of the Tyger-Cat of the Cape of Good Hope. By John Reinhold Forster, LL. DFR and AS}, author={Forster, J.R.}, journal={Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London}, volume={71}, pages={1--6}, year={1781}, publisher={JSTOR} } Alan On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > Actually, the full nomenclatural information is: > > *Pygoscelis papua* (J.R. Forster, > 1781). So there is a publication by J. R. Forster in 1781, describing this > penguin. > > Alan > > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Alan E. Davis wrote: > >> For what it's worth (possibly nothing), from Wikipedia: >> >> The application of *Gentoo* to the penguin is unclear, according to the * >> OED *, which reports that *Gentoo* was >> an Anglo-Indian term, used as early as 1638 to distinguish Hindusin India from Muslims, the English term originating in Portuguese >> *gentio* (compare "gentile "); in >> the twentieth century the term came to be regarded as derogatory >> . >> >> This needs to be followed up. One interesting publication would be >> >> @article{calaby1999european, >> title={The European Discovery and Scientific Description of Australian Birds.}, >> author={Calaby, JH}, >> journal={Historical Records of Australian Science}, >> volume={12}, >> number={3}, >> pages={313--329}, >> year={1999}, >> publisher={CSIRO} >> } >> >> to which I do not have access. However, this investigation is not over. The scientific name of the Gentoo Penguin is *Pygoscelis papua. It should not be difficult to find the original description?* >> >> >> >> Alan Davis >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> >>> On 12/21/2011 04:59 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, LinuxIsOne> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troeder >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow: >>>>>> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_**bug.cgi?id=27727 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser! >>>>> >>>>> >>>> That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a "trusted' authority by >>>> default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate >>>> throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your >>>> trusted authorities. >>>> >>> >>> What sucks is that you can't even get rid of the warnings even if you >>> accept and add the cert to Firefox. Every time you click on an attachment >>> in a bug, you get presented with a warning dialog again, and again, and >>> again, and again, until you get mad and start shooting bunnies. That's >>> because the domain changes with attachments (for some reason, b.g.o. uses >>> subdomains instead of URLs to link to attachments.) >>> >>> So it's either add cacert.org to your trusted authorities, or live in >>> hell when browsing b.g.o. IMO that's just stupid. I want to trust just >>> b.g.o, not every site out there that has a cacert certificate. Stupid. >>> Just stupid. >>> >>> >>> >> > --f46d043be05e94937404b4a1511c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Furthermore, the following publication is at least close enough to start on= .=A0 I don't have access today.

@article{forster1781natural=
,
  title=3D{Natural History and Description of the Tyger-Cat of the Cape of =
Good Hope. By John Reinhold Forster, LL. DFR and AS},
  author=3D{Forster, J.R.},
  journal=3D{Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London},
  volume=3D{71},
  pages=3D{1--6},
  year=3D{1781},
  publisher=3D{JSTOR}
}

Alan


On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 a= t 1:58 PM, Alan E. Davis <lngndvs@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually, the full nomenclatural information is:

Pygoscelis papua= (J.R. Forster, 1781).=A0 So there is a pu= blication by J. R. Forster in 1781, describing this penguin.=A0

Alan


On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Alan E. Davis <lngn= dvs@gmail.com> wrote:
For what it's worth (possibly nothing), from Wikipedia:

The application of Gentoo to the penguin is = unclear, according to the OED, which reports that Gentoo was an Anglo-Indian term, used as early as 1638 to distinguish Hind= us in India from Muslims, the English term originating in Portuguese gentio (compare "gentile"); in the twentieth c= entury the term came to be regarded as derogatory.

This needs to be followed up.=A0 One interesting publication woul= d be

@article{calaby1999europea=
n,
  title=3D{The European Discovery and Scientific Description of Australian =
Birds.},
  author=3D{Calaby, JH},
  journal=3D{Historical Records of Australian Science},
  volume=3D{12},
  number=3D{3},
  pages=3D{313--329},
  year=3D{1999},
  publisher=3D{CSIRO}
}


to which I do not have access.  However, this inve=
stigation is not over.  The scientific name of the Gentoo Penguin is Pyg=
oscelis papua. It should not be difficult to find the original description?=






Alan Davis

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Nikos Chantziaras &l= t;realnc@arcor.de&= gt; wrote:
On 12/21/2011 04:59 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote:
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:32 AM, LinuxIsOne<reallife@hmamail.com> =A0wrote:=
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Daniel Troeder<daniel@admin-box.com> =A0wrote:
Also (ir)relevant: bug report concerning the mascot Larry the cow:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D27727

But your links shows untrusted connection in my browser!


That would likely be because cacert.org isn't a "trusted' authority by
default and that is the issuer for B.G.O., making the certificate
throw up a red flag if you choose not to add cacert.org to your
trusted authorities.

What sucks is that you can't even get rid of the warnings even if you a= ccept and add the cert to Firefox. =A0Every time you click on an attachment= in a bug, you get presented with a warning dialog again, and again, and ag= ain, and again, until you get mad and start shooting bunnies. =A0That's= because the domain changes with attachments (for some reason, b.g.o. uses = subdomains instead of URLs to link to attachments.)

So it's either add cace= rt.org to your trusted authorities, or live in hell when browsing b.g.o= . =A0IMO that's just stupid. =A0I want to trust just b.g.o, not every s= ite out there that has a cacert certificate. =A0Stupid. =A0Just stupid.





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