From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E001381F3 for ; Fri, 31 May 2013 19:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80519E0962; Fri, 31 May 2013 19:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f195.google.com (mail-ob0-f195.google.com [209.85.214.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F5ACE0953 for ; Fri, 31 May 2013 19:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f195.google.com with SMTP id eh20so842258obb.10 for ; Fri, 31 May 2013 12:13:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Jdiv64gXY7yN/VVzFKvNBVNBTiBkgGX9Z5FRbosLFKU=; b=pIIWcGh8HUN5oat4zQzbUNQd+bCxh/ysN9b44rT50RxNstsYGds2GTzwrPfdQ5b8HP 5EaN9pl7o7eZuQ4lvVsoYxbIrV3+uMeqPQGrl27oKPi6PjGWKdH2AYXR+6Bkwz32M7xJ 8Q2Yc0L5P8OzJUnwIdSw5R03bOA784NKZxMacqO2LcCiiHuXo+OKbi6BFzxnDMMnT5da LntwOMRGKqR868JC9stJPPtpwAwCgCm+hgUEABsHHAHAAiTqUg9LnkZN9W102ZF3xILw dxpqnm+MsTfkwSPZlxU24bkX6Bg2j6rdDiqIsjZTB+vls4Vth5BLpmT49d/Q7q6eFuT0 vH5w== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.213.105 with SMTP id nr9mr6276715obc.78.1370027599223; Fri, 31 May 2013 12:13:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.84.231 with HTTP; Fri, 31 May 2013 12:13:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201305311158.45325.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> References: <51A390BB.1000206@gmail.com> <201305311158.45325.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 14:13:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] What does xgetdefault use flag do From: Mr G To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2e8b862664f04de086883 X-Archives-Salt: b787486c-3510-4c76-8f6e-dd5b516d72d8 X-Archives-Hash: 9b251a467dbb034d0749f0eec00fcd83 --001a11c2e8b862664f04de086883 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 5:58 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday 27 May 2013 17:58:35 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > >> I also have no idea what "small version" means - it's not English, it > >> doesn't parse, and it makes no sense. > > > > It is understandable if there is a small version of aterm. Perhaps aterm > itself rather than multi-aterm? > > > > -- > > Peter > > I am still not sure if "small" means both small in size and small in features or just small in features. I did not build it both ways and compare, in fact, I built rxvt-unicode and the flag was completely irrelevant. Wasn't having one of my good days evidently. I have built several Gentoo systems over the last few months but they have been gentoo-hardened servers and routers. This is/was my first attempt at a desktop and it is exposing my lack of understanding of X in general. I am one of those people who find that to be a good thing and have learned a lot this week. I believe now that what that flag does is allows you to build a terminal that is small, as in lightweight on resources. You can build it so that it would not read the xdefaults files and run as a very no frills terminal even if you ran an xserver built with all the fixin's. Which is exactly what the description says and caused me to be a bit embarrassed for even have asked. By the way, this install runs great. I have 320GB hard drive on a Dual Core Dell laptop. I'm in the process of putting three seperate installs on it which will be identical except for one will be gentoo-hardened with SELinux, another using RBAC, and then this one as normal install. I believe there are some situation where RBAC has an advantage over SELinux and vice versa. I also want to try and build the RBAC system running LXC with SELinux inside the containers. I believe this is possible and would further isolate the containers from the base system. -- B G --001a11c2e8b862664f04de086883 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I am still not sure if &q= uot;small" means both small in size and small in features or just smal= l in features. I did not build it both ways and compare, in fact, I built r= xvt-unicode and the flag was completely irrelevant. Wasn't having one o= f my good days evidently. I have built several Gentoo systems over the last= few months but they have been gentoo-hardened servers and routers. This is= /was my first attempt at a desktop and it is exposing my lack of understand= ing of X in general. I am one of those people who find that to be a good th= ing and have learned a lot this week.

I believe now that what that flag does is allows you to build a termina= l that is small, as in lightweight on resources. You can build it so that i= t would not read the xdefaults files and run as a very no frills terminal e= ven if you ran an xserver built with all the fixin's. Which is exactly = what the description says and caused me to be a bit embarrassed for even ha= ve asked.

By the way, this install runs great. I have 320GB hard drive on a Dual = Core Dell laptop. I'm in the process of putting three seperate installs= on it which will be identical except for one will be gentoo-hardened with = SELinux, another using RBAC, and then this one as normal install. I believe= there are some situation where RBAC has an advantage over SELinux and vice= versa. I also want to try and build the RBAC system running LXC with SELin= ux inside the containers. I believe this is possible and would further isol= ate the containers from the base system.


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