From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32107138010 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DFDDE01A3; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (mail-lb0-f181.google.com [209.85.217.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D62E00D3 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 22:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lbbgk1 with SMTP id gk1so9214lbb.40 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:57:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=oYIT/CFzVUgmnhEaUyPHrZNB3TLOxKozX6Nqb9hxkmM=; b=i7Mx1AUvOVjQ1eRx5DEVMhDgfHNfWyQiEvzPXif24E31vVg1ZVj7lDmxGkD/OoFoZ/ EgORIw8/9vR295gurkdyumrJaG0DHacXHRiIGCUjQBKswQtLcfSy99qpGV1QWpZg9fGN StxUOHQND7amDvkp6IDTwFlCASUHwm5p3gdKd2MDgTgLnbsA+8Cx+C6v2mqNsfjOljwL jtfBEPPAO5Q6VW+uFxmB0sVSkncLzAKg3DJQbQ4QVsHMyGIaAPxfrqgBdP8aMu1hMJA8 0QG5KcEikeC8RNOi2anWl0VimJ/+y2+3fEyRUWrxxbUlNUnuJbGTHzudFW/w8HHHrSIn dGKg== Received: by 10.112.29.7 with SMTP id f7mr4434lbh.52.1346194672997; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: paul.hartman@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.29.132 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Aug 2012 15:57:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <502DF7D0.8010200@wonkology.org> <3485581.aiICU322tR@energy> <502E8A72.3090600@wonkology.org> <502E9E84.4060500@wonkology.org> <503D30C7.1000209@wonkology.org> <503CD478.9080609@gmail.com> From: Paul Hartman Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:57:31 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: QJzhGoqrvMKt3QswCRA91aEbbt4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] My PC died. What should I try? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 311c7056-aab8-46da-b962-0b0ef1541796 X-Archives-Hash: f305cc5c6dda7684fdf06e71664cd85d On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Michael Mol wrote: > On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Paul Hartman > wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 9:23 AM, Edward M wrote: >>> And if the motherboard is somehow shorting out inside the case >>> http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/307187-30-motherboard-shorting-case >> >> I completely forget that I had this happen once. The case design was >> such that part of the motherboard contacted metal of the case. When I >> tried to turn on, it would short and fail to boot up. I had to get a >> piece of sticky film and made a layer on the case in the area where it >> was touching. After doing that it worked fine. > > Cases usually ship with standoffs to prevent that kind of thing. The > standoffs look like screws with screwholes in them, and a hexagonal > shaft you can manage with your fingers, a socket wrench or > (non-needlenose) pliers. In my case (no pun intended) it was shorting even with the standoffs because of the way a cut-out in the metal under the motherboard had rolled edges that curled up toward the motherboard. It was a known defective-by-design situation and later revisions of the case solved the problem. :) I think it was a Thermaltake case if I remember correctly.