From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42F41389FF for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:33:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6632121C038; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ve0-f178.google.com (mail-ve0-f178.google.com [209.85.128.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C555D21C007 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:32:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f178.google.com with SMTP id db10so1280122veb.23 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:32:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=6IK28hyGhe2yqKbD9lHviq7MXf3qoLhbpd7TwbHVy4U=; b=KdgIoOEMexws8q3mys70yvdVuLRbsw+ztnwnOi+EhlkahE1V2d4aAkDPwUtBQHvwGa wu2JwOsJy863A26/87OXYKsSB4IN2gkaULXvsZBJrcxCZ0yjhal6Zdwnx3W0Zh/O88ui 7t2QTD4Nsmti8QmjHM5p+s4aBH5FX91vn738plc1PqLe3mo171tigBIT5NWse6BhU9/H 8qqjzAFiZAp2H37kXuusazvJRLyV3E428+B9WWUeD7CpLeB1GrbGbnjtqpLlXVEOXZ3m gSJQI7CDF0FbCGjnTZhQSuABRIwqQ6DM0SQaU/+jXeMp4qcBJHefiMXUYkY4WIwlImg2 gKfw== X-Received: by 10.220.150.3 with SMTP id w3mr30999542vcv.37.1360776768857; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:32:48 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: paul.hartman@gmail.com Received: by 10.58.209.201 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:32:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <511B9F57.6060501@gmail.com> References: <5109521C.3030207@xunil.at> <20130130173615.GA10408@BIFROST.zedat.fu-berlin.de> <51095D00.2040100@xunil.at> <511B072B.5030106@gmail.com> <511B6D6A.2020409@gmail.com> <83784AD7-77A0-472A-B594-17B8FB525DED@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> <511B85CC.1070004@gmail.com> <511B9F57.6060501@gmail.com> From: Paul Hartman Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:32:28 -0600 X-Google-Sender-Auth: IfqQbynqZWkt3t9NJJj7Nnq-hFU Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2 [now gnome3] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Archives-Salt: 5f926c89-5915-4da1-8a4f-8f412d51c82e X-Archives-Hash: 2fa1ab0d9528d91300db1e38dbc00c33 On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 8:12 AM, walt wrote: > On 02/13/2013 04:23 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> All the progress I see from Gnome3 (and I get this only from blog posts >> on the tubes) is that stuff is being ripped out and replaced with mostly >> nothing. > > That's exactly my problem with gnome3 in a sentence. I don't hate gnome-shell > as an interface, I hate it because some important (to me) stuff is missing and > if it's possible to get the missing stuff back, I don't know how to do it. > > The gnome3 devs may intend to restore the missing stuff at some point, but I > don't know, and meanwhile I'm frustrated and my attitude is deteriorating. This is giving me flashbacks to the threads from when KDE4 was first released, people complaining about missing features from KDE3. A good time was had by all. At least KDE4 proved that, if you can wait a few years, most of those beloved features will probably be reimplemented at some point, maybe. :)