* [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
@ 2012-02-01 23:39 Dale
2012-02-01 23:57 ` Paul Hartman
2012-02-02 2:28 ` Mike Edenfield
0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2012-02-01 23:39 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Howdy,
I got a neighbour that has a computer issue. First, the hard drive went
out. We ordered a new one and installed it. Then he realized he didn't
have the restore discs. We ordered those from Gateway. I went up today
and tried to install winders 7 on the new drive. I put the system disc
in and it booted. Then it asked for the recovery disc #1. It copied
that over then asked for disc 2. After a bit it wanted the Language
disc. Then it said to reboot and it spit out the DVD.
When it reboots from the hard drive, it comes up and says it is setting
up the hardware and it seems to finish it. Then a window pops up and
says this:
"Windows Setup could not configure windows to run on this computers
hardware."
I never saw any error at any time until the message popped up. The
install from the DVD went fine. It is point and click basically.
After I first put the new drive in, I booted Sysrescue USB stick. I
even ran the test on the drive. I didn't see any errors on anything
there. I'm fairly certain this isn't a hardware issue.
Any ideas on why this doesn't work? Maybe have a fix? Bad media?
Wrong media? I ordered it by the big long number so if it is wrong,
Gateway picked the wrong thing but who knows.
Thanks.
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-01 23:39 [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error Dale
@ 2012-02-01 23:57 ` Paul Hartman
2012-02-02 1:06 ` Dale
2012-02-03 1:27 ` Dale
2012-02-02 2:28 ` Mike Edenfield
1 sibling, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Paul Hartman @ 2012-02-01 23:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> I got a neighbour that has a computer issue. First, the hard drive went
> out. We ordered a new one and installed it. Then he realized he didn't
> have the restore discs. We ordered those from Gateway. I went up today
> and tried to install winders 7 on the new drive. I put the system disc
> in and it booted. Then it asked for the recovery disc #1. It copied
> that over then asked for disc 2. After a bit it wanted the Language
> disc. Then it said to reboot and it spit out the DVD.
>
> When it reboots from the hard drive, it comes up and says it is setting
> up the hardware and it seems to finish it. Then a window pops up and
> says this:
>
> "Windows Setup could not configure windows to run on this computers
> hardware."
Be sure the BIOS is set to AHCI mode and not RAID/IDE/Legacy mode, if
possible. If AHCI is not a choice, but choices are nonetheless
available, try changing it to whatever the alternative setting is. The
idea being that the driver it's trying to use is not working, so maybe
the other driver will work long enough to boot and install updates, at
which point you can change the setting back to what it was and give
that a shot.
Does the new HDD have 4k sectors? I think Windows 7 can't be installed
on those without supplying an updated disk controller driver during
installation.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-01 23:57 ` Paul Hartman
@ 2012-02-02 1:06 ` Dale
2012-02-02 2:31 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-02-02 15:34 ` Paul Hartman
2012-02-03 1:27 ` Dale
1 sibling, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2012-02-02 1:06 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I got a neighbour that has a computer issue. First, the hard drive went
>> out. We ordered a new one and installed it. Then he realized he didn't
>> have the restore discs. We ordered those from Gateway. I went up today
>> and tried to install winders 7 on the new drive. I put the system disc
>> in and it booted. Then it asked for the recovery disc #1. It copied
>> that over then asked for disc 2. After a bit it wanted the Language
>> disc. Then it said to reboot and it spit out the DVD.
>>
>> When it reboots from the hard drive, it comes up and says it is setting
>> up the hardware and it seems to finish it. Then a window pops up and
>> says this:
>>
>> "Windows Setup could not configure windows to run on this computers
>> hardware."
>
> Be sure the BIOS is set to AHCI mode and not RAID/IDE/Legacy mode, if
> possible. If AHCI is not a choice, but choices are nonetheless
> available, try changing it to whatever the alternative setting is. The
> idea being that the driver it's trying to use is not working, so maybe
> the other driver will work long enough to boot and install updates, at
> which point you can change the setting back to what it was and give
> that a shot.
>
> Does the new HDD have 4k sectors? I think Windows 7 can't be installed
> on those without supplying an updated disk controller driver during
> installation.
>
>
Your reply made me think of something. I had a XP reinstall once that
required a number from MS because of the new mobo and hard drive. They
said it recognized the change in the serial numbers. When I ran into
that before tho, it installed fine but gave 30 days to put in the
number. Does winders 7 have something similar?
I'll check into your idea tomorrow tho. I hadn't even thought about
that. I got the closest drive to it that I could find but I'm sure
there is a difference.
Thanks much for the idea. Still open to more ideas tho.
Dale
:-) :-)
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* RE: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-01 23:39 [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error Dale
2012-02-01 23:57 ` Paul Hartman
@ 2012-02-02 2:28 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-02-02 2:42 ` Dale
1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Mike Edenfield @ 2012-02-02 2:28 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:39 PM
>
> Howdy,
>
> I got a neighbour that has a computer issue. First, the hard drive went
> out. We ordered a new one and installed it. Then he realized he didn't
> have the restore discs. We ordered those from Gateway. I went up today
> and tried to install winders 7 on the new drive. I put the system disc
> in and it booted. Then it asked for the recovery disc #1. It copied
> that over then asked for disc 2. After a bit it wanted the Language
> disc. Then it said to reboot and it spit out the DVD.
>
> When it reboots from the hard drive, it comes up and says it is setting
> up the hardware and it seems to finish it. Then a window pops up and
> says this:
>
> "Windows Setup could not configure windows to run on this computers
> hardware."
Does this help?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2466753
You may have accidentially set the new drive in the BIOS as RAID: the KB
article has steps to find the error logs and get more details.
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* RE: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-02 1:06 ` Dale
@ 2012-02-02 2:31 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-02-02 3:06 ` Dale
2012-02-02 3:47 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2012-02-02 15:34 ` Paul Hartman
1 sibling, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Mike Edenfield @ 2012-02-02 2:31 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:06 PM
> Your reply made me think of something. I had a XP reinstall once that
> required a number from MS because of the new mobo and hard drive. They
> said it recognized the change in the serial numbers. When I ran into
> that before tho, it installed fine but gave 30 days to put in the
> number. Does winders 7 have something similar?
Yes but that has nothing to do with your problem. If you change your
hardware too much, it will deactivate your license, but you'll get a pretty
clear error about that being the problem.
I *think* you get a grace period after that to re-activate your system but
it's been a while since I had that happen to me.
--Mike
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-02 2:28 ` Mike Edenfield
@ 2012-02-02 2:42 ` Dale
2012-02-02 3:27 ` Mike Edenfield
0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2012-02-02 2:42 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Mike Edenfield wrote:
>> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:39 PM
>>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I got a neighbour that has a computer issue. First, the hard drive went
>> out. We ordered a new one and installed it. Then he realized he didn't
>> have the restore discs. We ordered those from Gateway. I went up today
>> and tried to install winders 7 on the new drive. I put the system disc
>> in and it booted. Then it asked for the recovery disc #1. It copied
>> that over then asked for disc 2. After a bit it wanted the Language
>> disc. Then it said to reboot and it spit out the DVD.
>>
>> When it reboots from the hard drive, it comes up and says it is setting
>> up the hardware and it seems to finish it. Then a window pops up and
>> says this:
>>
>> "Windows Setup could not configure windows to run on this computers
>> hardware."
>
> Does this help?
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2466753
>
> You may have accidentially set the new drive in the BIOS as RAID: the KB
> article has steps to find the error logs and get more details.
>
>
>
Printed that page to try tomorrow. I didn't change anything in the BIOS
tho. It saw the drive right off. I even used the same cable and power
plug as the old drive so it sees them as C: or whatever.
I bet it has something to do with AHCI or IDE settings tho. I hope that
is it. After I get the install done, I can then upgrade the drivers and
switch it back.
Thanks for the help. I got a couple things to try tomorrow.
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-02 2:31 ` Mike Edenfield
@ 2012-02-02 3:06 ` Dale
2012-02-02 3:47 ` Frank Steinmetzger
1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2012-02-02 3:06 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Mike Edenfield wrote:
>> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:06 PM
>
>
>> Your reply made me think of something. I had a XP reinstall once that
>> required a number from MS because of the new mobo and hard drive. They
>> said it recognized the change in the serial numbers. When I ran into
>> that before tho, it installed fine but gave 30 days to put in the
>> number. Does winders 7 have something similar?
>
> Yes but that has nothing to do with your problem. If you change your
> hardware too much, it will deactivate your license, but you'll get a pretty
> clear error about that being the problem.
>
> I *think* you get a grace period after that to re-activate your system but
> it's been a while since I had that happen to me.
>
> --Mike
>
That is what XP did that time. This is the first time installing
anything newer than XP tho. I did notice the install process sort of
changed. I started to send a message to Gateway but it is out of
warranty. I don't know if they charge for help or not but I wouldn't be
surprised if they do.
Thanks for all the help. If anyone has other ideas, post away. I will
test them tomorrow.
Have I ever mentioned I hate winders? lol
Dale
:-) :-)
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* RE: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-02 2:42 ` Dale
@ 2012-02-02 3:27 ` Mike Edenfield
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From: Mike Edenfield @ 2012-02-02 3:27 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 9:43 PM
>
> Mike Edenfield wrote:
> >> From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 6:39 PM
> >>
> >> Howdy,
> >>
> >> I got a neighbour that has a computer issue. First, the hard drive
went
> >> out. We ordered a new one and installed it. Then he realized he
didn't
> >> have the restore discs. We ordered those from Gateway. I went up
> today
> >> and tried to install winders 7 on the new drive. I put the system disc
> >> in and it booted. Then it asked for the recovery disc #1. It copied
> >> that over then asked for disc 2. After a bit it wanted the Language
> >> disc. Then it said to reboot and it spit out the DVD.
> >>
> >> When it reboots from the hard drive, it comes up and says it is setting
> >> up the hardware and it seems to finish it. Then a window pops up and
> >> says this:
> >>
> >> "Windows Setup could not configure windows to run on this computers
> >> hardware."
> >
> > Does this help?
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2466753
> >
> > You may have accidentially set the new drive in the BIOS as RAID: the KB
> > article has steps to find the error logs and get more details.
>
> Printed that page to try tomorrow. I didn't change anything in the BIOS
> tho. It saw the drive right off. I even used the same cable and power
> plug as the old drive so it sees them as C: or whatever.
>
> I bet it has something to do with AHCI or IDE settings tho. I hope that
> is it. After I get the install done, I can then upgrade the drivers and
> switch it back.
Make sure you check the ACHI setting before you install Windows: it's a pain
in the butt to change the settings later because Windows disables the ACHI
driver if it's not in use, and you have to manually re-enable it or your
boot will fail. (Kinda like having to enable the module for your root
drive). Of course, if you get it wrong you just lose some performance but
it's easy enough to just check first :)
--Mike
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-02 2:31 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-02-02 3:06 ` Dale
@ 2012-02-02 3:47 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2012-02-02 12:12 ` Michael Mol
1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Frank Steinmetzger @ 2012-02-02 3:47 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 09:31:13PM -0500, Mike Edenfield wrote:
> > From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:06 PM
>
>
> > Your reply made me think of something. I had a XP reinstall once that
> > required a number from MS because of the new mobo and hard drive. They
> > said it recognized the change in the serial numbers. When I ran into
> > that before tho, it installed fine but gave 30 days to put in the
> > number. Does winders 7 have something similar?
That's the Product Key, being 5x5 characters in size *looking at sticker on
bottom of laptop*. Once you entered the key, Windows activates itself online.
If that fails (e.g. if you used the key too often or the key is blacklisted,
etc), you can reactivate Windows via a phone call to MS.
> I *think* you get a grace period after that to re-activate your system but
> it's been a while since I had that happen to me.
Incidentally, I have this very situation in a virtual XP right now. Once that
grace period is over, it shuts you out completely. When I try to log in it
tells me that I need to activate it before I can log in. My choices are to
either enter a key into a dialog or to not do so, in which case I get thrown
back to the login screen. Neat, huh.
Windows 7 gives you some more leeway, in that it lets you log in to your
desktop, but IIRC the background is blackened and all you can open is IE to
open the MS site or summit like that.
There is a command which can rearm the 30 days counter at most twice, as long
as it hasn't run out yet.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-02 3:47 ` Frank Steinmetzger
@ 2012-02-02 12:12 ` Michael Mol
0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Michael Mol @ 2012-02-02 12:12 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:47 PM, Frank Steinmetzger <Warp_7@gmx.de> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 09:31:13PM -0500, Mike Edenfield wrote:
>> > From: Dale [mailto:rdalek1967@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2012 8:06 PM
>>
>>
>> > Your reply made me think of something. I had a XP reinstall once that
>> > required a number from MS because of the new mobo and hard drive. They
>> > said it recognized the change in the serial numbers. When I ran into
>> > that before tho, it installed fine but gave 30 days to put in the
>> > number. Does winders 7 have something similar?
>
> That's the Product Key, being 5x5 characters in size *looking at sticker on
> bottom of laptop*. Once you entered the key, Windows activates itself online.
> If that fails (e.g. if you used the key too often or the key is blacklisted,
> etc), you can reactivate Windows via a phone call to MS.
>
>> I *think* you get a grace period after that to re-activate your system but
>> it's been a while since I had that happen to me.
>
> Incidentally, I have this very situation in a virtual XP right now. Once that
> grace period is over, it shuts you out completely. When I try to log in it
> tells me that I need to activate it before I can log in. My choices are to
> either enter a key into a dialog or to not do so, in which case I get thrown
> back to the login screen. Neat, huh.
>
> Windows 7 gives you some more leeway, in that it lets you log in to your
> desktop, but IIRC the background is blackened and all you can open is IE to
> open the MS site or summit like that.
>
> There is a command which can rearm the 30 days counter at most twice, as long
> as it hasn't run out yet.
XP used to offer more leeway than you currently get, but there's a
nasty version dependency sequence where you need a newer version of
something (I forget what) in order to continue Windows Updates, but to
install that newer version, you need to satisfy WGA, which I believe
is the tool that forces you to activate before accessing a desktop.
Which means getting a fully patched system before entering a key is
difficult, if not impossible.
Where I work, it had been recommended to us that we use the grace
period to avoid burning our activation keys when we went to do testing
of our software. Having WGA and the "enter a key or forget about
logging in" misfeature land happened only a few weeks later. *sigh*
--
:wq
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-02 1:06 ` Dale
2012-02-02 2:31 ` Mike Edenfield
@ 2012-02-02 15:34 ` Paul Hartman
2012-02-02 15:51 ` James Broadhead
2012-02-02 17:01 ` Dale
1 sibling, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Paul Hartman @ 2012-02-02 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> Your reply made me think of something. I had a XP reinstall once that
> required a number from MS because of the new mobo and hard drive. They
> said it recognized the change in the serial numbers. When I ran into
> that before tho, it installed fine but gave 30 days to put in the
> number. Does winders 7 have something similar?
When you install Windows 7, Vista or XP (SP3 or newer), you can
actually skip the product key step and it'll install as a trial
version (30-day? 90-day? something like that). You can then "upgrade"
to the real version by activating it when you're comfortable that
everything is working properly -- or don't activate it at all and
install Gentoo. Trying to keep it on-topic. :)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-02 15:34 ` Paul Hartman
@ 2012-02-02 15:51 ` James Broadhead
2012-02-02 16:53 ` Dale
2012-02-02 17:01 ` Dale
1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: James Broadhead @ 2012-02-02 15:51 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 2 February 2012 15:34, Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Your reply made me think of something. I had a XP reinstall once that
>> required a number from MS because of the new mobo and hard drive. They
>> said it recognized the change in the serial numbers. When I ran into
>> that before tho, it installed fine but gave 30 days to put in the
>> number. Does winders 7 have something similar?
>
> When you install Windows 7, Vista or XP (SP3 or newer), you can
> actually skip the product key step and it'll install as a trial
> version (30-day? 90-day? something like that). You can then "upgrade"
> to the real version by activating it when you're comfortable that
> everything is working properly -- or don't activate it at all and
> install Gentoo. Trying to keep it on-topic. :)
This problem isn't related to Activation (which a lot of people have
been describing). Those errors tend to be pretty explicit.
In my experience, Windows 7 is relatively lax at install-time, and
will give you 30 days leeway before it demands a key (which may or may
not require calling the hotline).
I'd say that you've either been hit by;
- An incorrect OEM disk that's checking the BIOS for some kind of
Manufacturer flag (and not getting what it wants).
- A BIOS setting that Win7 doesn't like working with (I think that
IDE-compat/AHCI is a good avenue of approach). Mike's link looks good
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2466753)
Also, install Linux, jeez :3
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-02 15:51 ` James Broadhead
@ 2012-02-02 16:53 ` Dale
2012-02-02 17:04 ` Michael Mol
0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2012-02-02 16:53 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
James Broadhead wrote:
> On 2 February 2012 15:34, Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Your reply made me think of something. I had a XP reinstall once that
>>> required a number from MS because of the new mobo and hard drive. They
>>> said it recognized the change in the serial numbers. When I ran into
>>> that before tho, it installed fine but gave 30 days to put in the
>>> number. Does winders 7 have something similar?
>>
>> When you install Windows 7, Vista or XP (SP3 or newer), you can
>> actually skip the product key step and it'll install as a trial
>> version (30-day? 90-day? something like that). You can then "upgrade"
>> to the real version by activating it when you're comfortable that
>> everything is working properly -- or don't activate it at all and
>> install Gentoo. Trying to keep it on-topic. :)
>
> This problem isn't related to Activation (which a lot of people have
> been describing). Those errors tend to be pretty explicit.
>
> In my experience, Windows 7 is relatively lax at install-time, and
> will give you 30 days leeway before it demands a key (which may or may
> not require calling the hotline).
>
> I'd say that you've either been hit by;
> - An incorrect OEM disk that's checking the BIOS for some kind of
> Manufacturer flag (and not getting what it wants).
> - A BIOS setting that Win7 doesn't like working with (I think that
> IDE-compat/AHCI is a good avenue of approach). Mike's link looks good
> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2466753)
>
>
> Also, install Linux, jeez :3
>
>
I'm working on the Linux thing. He's warming up. It's like I told him,
Firefox looks the same on Linux as it does on windoze. The differences
between Linux, Kubuntu is what I am going for, and windoze is all under
the hood. All they do is surf the web, check emails, and check on their
banking stuff, maybe pay a bill or two.
For what they do, Linux would be great. He's good enough on puters to
upgrade Kubuntu too. It's just point and clicky anyway.
Gentoo would be a bit much tho, unless I could build the packages here
and install them there as binaries.
I hope they get home soon. I want to check the BIOS settings.
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-02 15:34 ` Paul Hartman
2012-02-02 15:51 ` James Broadhead
@ 2012-02-02 17:01 ` Dale
2012-02-02 21:44 ` Frank Steinmetzger
1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Dale @ 2012-02-02 17:01 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Your reply made me think of something. I had a XP reinstall once that
>> required a number from MS because of the new mobo and hard drive. They
>> said it recognized the change in the serial numbers. When I ran into
>> that before tho, it installed fine but gave 30 days to put in the
>> number. Does winders 7 have something similar?
>
> When you install Windows 7, Vista or XP (SP3 or newer), you can
> actually skip the product key step and it'll install as a trial
> version (30-day? 90-day? something like that). You can then "upgrade"
> to the real version by activating it when you're comfortable that
> everything is working properly -- or don't activate it at all and
> install Gentoo. Trying to keep it on-topic. :)
>
>
This whole thread is off topic as it gets. Fire away. Heck, talk about
the weather. It could be more on topic than a Linux list talking about
fixing a windoze install. ROFL
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-02 16:53 ` Dale
@ 2012-02-02 17:04 ` Michael Mol
2012-02-05 17:47 ` Tanstaafl
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From: Michael Mol @ 2012-02-02 17:04 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> James Broadhead wrote:
>> On 2 February 2012 15:34, Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Your reply made me think of something. I had a XP reinstall once that
>>>> required a number from MS because of the new mobo and hard drive. They
>>>> said it recognized the change in the serial numbers. When I ran into
>>>> that before tho, it installed fine but gave 30 days to put in the
>>>> number. Does winders 7 have something similar?
>>>
>>> When you install Windows 7, Vista or XP (SP3 or newer), you can
>>> actually skip the product key step and it'll install as a trial
>>> version (30-day? 90-day? something like that). You can then "upgrade"
>>> to the real version by activating it when you're comfortable that
>>> everything is working properly -- or don't activate it at all and
>>> install Gentoo. Trying to keep it on-topic. :)
>>
>> This problem isn't related to Activation (which a lot of people have
>> been describing). Those errors tend to be pretty explicit.
>>
>> In my experience, Windows 7 is relatively lax at install-time, and
>> will give you 30 days leeway before it demands a key (which may or may
>> not require calling the hotline).
>>
>> I'd say that you've either been hit by;
>> - An incorrect OEM disk that's checking the BIOS for some kind of
>> Manufacturer flag (and not getting what it wants).
>> - A BIOS setting that Win7 doesn't like working with (I think that
>> IDE-compat/AHCI is a good avenue of approach). Mike's link looks good
>> (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2466753)
>>
>>
>> Also, install Linux, jeez :3
>>
>>
>
>
> I'm working on the Linux thing. He's warming up. It's like I told him,
> Firefox looks the same on Linux as it does on windoze. The differences
> between Linux, Kubuntu is what I am going for, and windoze is all under
> the hood. All they do is surf the web, check emails, and check on their
> banking stuff, maybe pay a bill or two.
>
> For what they do, Linux would be great. He's good enough on puters to
> upgrade Kubuntu too. It's just point and clicky anyway.
>
> Gentoo would be a bit much tho, unless I could build the packages here
> and install them there as binaries.
>
> I hope they get home soon. I want to check the BIOS settings.
Pretty much what I've got going for my grandmother. I had her working
with Evolution and Firefox on XP before we switched her over to the
same on Easy Peasy. She's very comfortable with it, and even clicks on
icons needed when it wants to update.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-02 17:01 ` Dale
@ 2012-02-02 21:44 ` Frank Steinmetzger
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From: Frank Steinmetzger @ 2012-02-02 21:44 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
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On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 11:01:16AM -0600, Dale wrote:
> This whole thread is off topic as it gets. Fire away. Heck, talk about
> the weather. It could be more on topic than a Linux list talking about
> fixing a windoze install. ROFL
You started it. :-P Perhaps we should found a gentoo-user-ramble list.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-01 23:57 ` Paul Hartman
2012-02-02 1:06 ` Dale
@ 2012-02-03 1:27 ` Dale
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From: Dale @ 2012-02-03 1:27 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I got a neighbour that has a computer issue. First, the hard drive went
>> out. We ordered a new one and installed it. Then he realized he didn't
>> have the restore discs. We ordered those from Gateway. I went up today
>> and tried to install winders 7 on the new drive. I put the system disc
>> in and it booted. Then it asked for the recovery disc #1. It copied
>> that over then asked for disc 2. After a bit it wanted the Language
>> disc. Then it said to reboot and it spit out the DVD.
>>
>> When it reboots from the hard drive, it comes up and says it is setting
>> up the hardware and it seems to finish it. Then a window pops up and
>> says this:
>>
>> "Windows Setup could not configure windows to run on this computers
>> hardware."
>
> Be sure the BIOS is set to AHCI mode and not RAID/IDE/Legacy mode, if
> possible. If AHCI is not a choice, but choices are nonetheless
> available, try changing it to whatever the alternative setting is. The
> idea being that the driver it's trying to use is not working, so maybe
> the other driver will work long enough to boot and install updates, at
> which point you can change the setting back to what it was and give
> that a shot.
>
> Does the new HDD have 4k sectors? I think Windows 7 can't be installed
> on those without supplying an updated disk controller driver during
> installation.
>
>
OK. The folks finally decided to come home. I checked the BIOS and it
was set to AHCI mode, mobo is not RAID capable. I changed it to IDE.
It still wouldn't boot so I just reinstalled it again, just in case. It
installed fine, rebooted and did all its setup crap just fine and when I
left, it was downloading 94 fixer uppers.
So, if someone runs into that error, check the drive mode settings and
switch it.
Now watch him want me to install Linux next week and get rid of winders.
lol
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-02 17:04 ` Michael Mol
@ 2012-02-05 17:47 ` Tanstaafl
2012-02-05 18:20 ` Michael Mol
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From: Tanstaafl @ 2012-02-05 17:47 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 2012-02-02 12:04 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com> wrote:
> Pretty much what I've got going for my grandmother. I had her working
> with Evolution and Firefox on XP
Interesting... the last time (admittedly a *long* time ago) I tried
Evolution on Windows it was totally unusable...
Are you saying that it is now reasonably stable? How is its IMAP
performance/capability as compared to Thunderbird?
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* Re: [gentoo-user] [OT as it gets. Sorry] Windoze 7 and reinstalling error.
2012-02-05 17:47 ` Tanstaafl
@ 2012-02-05 18:20 ` Michael Mol
0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Michael Mol @ 2012-02-05 18:20 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@libertytrek.org> wrote:
> On 2012-02-02 12:04 PM, Michael Mol <mikemol@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Pretty much what I've got going for my grandmother. I had her working
>> with Evolution and Firefox on XP
>
>
> Interesting... the last time (admittedly a *long* time ago) I tried
> Evolution on Windows it was totally unusable...
>
> Are you saying that it is now reasonably stable? How is its IMAP
> performance/capability as compared to Thunderbird?
>
Thinko. Way back when, she was on Outlook+XP, IE+XP. We moved her to
Thunderbird+XP, Firefox+XP. Then we moved her to Thunderbird+Linux,
Firefox+Linux.
Then we moved her to Evolution+Linux, because there was something I
don't recall wrong with Thunderbird. She's pretty good with Evolution,
now.
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