From: Ian Bloss <ianlinkcd@gmail.com>
To: Gentoo mailing list <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Human configurable boot loader, OR useful grub2 documentation
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2019 00:30:22 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADopNUdrdL7CO=KX=-p0sJbdLGz4WzUxFkfeswsfp6H_M=8OzA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Lj-jC9o--3-1@tutanota.com>
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Check out syslinux if grub is too obnoxious. I've found it much more
straight forward than grub.
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019, 2:05 AM <mad.scientist.at.large@tutanota.com> wrote:
> So, is there either a boot loader that a human can configure manually that
> can handle LUKS partitions? No uefi, but GPT would be nice. The grub2
> "documentation" Reads like someone in the later stages of alzheimers'
> trying to tell you how to get to the moon from scratch? The grub "legacy"
> manual was at least usefull, the grub2 manual is incoherent and has no
> logical structure or explanations in it. It's insane that a boot loader
> takes 60 pages to document without actually explaning itself, barely useful
> as a reference IF you new it anyway.
>
> Grub2 produces insanely huge configuration files, stuffed with
> conditionals. It's obvious even the automatic tools don't know how to
> configure it, It can't figure out how to boot redcore, on the same drive
> though it thinks it can. It thinks you might want to try one version of
> linux with the ram disk and kernel from another, which doesn't work very
> well and WHY?
>
> any links to sane documentation or sane bootloaders greatly appreciated,
> it'll be months before i can work on my own bootloader or extend one that
> makes sense out side of a corporate server farm or randomly assorted
> desktops that have to all work with the same config file (possibly because
> grub2 is deciding how to work every time it loads).
>
> Yeah, I hate grub2. I"m very willing to learn gentoo, but it does make
> some sense and there are articles that actually explain things online. I
> can't find anything usefull about grub2 other than "DON'T MANUALLY EDIT
> THIS FILE", if it's not human editable and understandable why even bother
> to have it in human readable text?
>
>
> "Would you like to see us rule again, my friend? All you have to do is
> follow the worms." Pink Floyd, The Wall, Waiting for the worms
>
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Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-05 6:05 [gentoo-user] Human configurable boot loader, OR useful grub2 documentation mad.scientist.at.large
2019-07-05 7:18 ` Francesco Turco
2019-07-05 7:24 ` mad.scientist.at.large
2019-07-05 8:10 ` Mick
2019-07-05 14:04 ` Rich Freeman
2019-07-05 15:32 ` Grant Taylor
2019-07-05 19:57 ` Neil Bothwick
2019-07-05 20:56 ` Grant Taylor
2019-07-05 14:25 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2019-07-09 3:05 ` mad.scientist.at.large
2019-07-09 17:17 ` Ian Zimmerman
2019-07-09 19:53 ` Grant Edwards
2019-07-05 9:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Philip Webb
2019-07-09 4:30 ` Ian Bloss [this message]
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