From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B1B138E20 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 22:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8613FE0E4B; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 22:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f66.google.com (mail-la0-f66.google.com [209.85.215.66]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56418E0E14 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 22:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f66.google.com with SMTP id y1so949693lam.1 for ; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:43:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=8/5iQqO1vNmJZAlWcCeLeeYiv7P8ZmsVGj32uYIftfw=; b=UvYTDo+kgL0vChNSD8ka6fuOC41ZEvrmKENQFAykyL7oenz1cM7OZ6Nygag3G7xM8g UfvA3ACcXcOPqw+L+AVQ0SqmQJv+WI5ic0EvrO1f2HhupHR4BUb32/sgAay/jl7W8AdT B/WS8abvelnLjXPENLYc9fMYX1HD90UMxWAWEvgeqOYJPDSZktywoMM5eau57ft4QbI0 2+6snxKJRHz4aNpn86R8i3GXwiZXsOWe+TT+qBZ0BS6yHivWblGsa26PVqGpnD/UCtX6 Ihbb37WSnLvIzwCkLdoGEadP1Gbke4NHAihtUjuy5gtyYE2lPNPGKSQ4JmLDNFOFW7NX iHeQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.166.68 with SMTP id ze4mr5271133lbb.58.1393022639790; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:43:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.170.67 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Feb 2014 14:43:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5307C5DC.7090905@darkmetatron.de> References: <52FF84CE.2050301@libertytrek.org> <52FF9D58.3000608@libertytrek.org> <52FFCE52.5060401@sporkbox.us> <5306990B.1030506@sporkbox.us> <20140221114216.027ca1dbdb341884b3fded67@gmail.com> <5307C5DC.7090905@darkmetatron.de> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 16:43:59 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 78e84de4-0f67-410f-ab73-004587af5d9b X-Archives-Hash: d460a1c29dd5a2e250f5e6167ab67a17 On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Sebastian Be=C3=9Fler wrote: > On 21.02.2014 08:42, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > >> So all talks about systemd being modular are nothing more than >> nonsense. Guess what will happen on segfault in libsystemd.so? >> Segfaults in pid 1 are so nice to bear... > > And now with 209 there is a new systemd-networkd deamon that is started > by default even if not configured or used. > > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=3Dnews_item&px=3DMTYxMTI $ ./configure --help | grep networkd --disable-networkd disable networkd It can be disabled. > Why has a init system a deamon to configure networks? So you don't need the same script (or service unit file) that configures an static IP or bridge, in millions of servers that do not want to use NetworkManager or anything similar. Again, is optional, you can disable it. > What comes next? Systemd-Windowsd, a systemd replacement for all other > desktop environments? Systemd-Browserd? Systemd-Officed? Yeah, because configuring an static IP is similar to LibreOffice. Get real. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico