From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A451D1381F3 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:39:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 906B8E0AC4; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 226A1E0ABE for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f182.google.com with SMTP id v20so153680lbc.41 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:38:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=sqiQ+krCSVrduwxYWfP1Eyi5j6XX6zmEj233BMzIa5A=; b=xJIigo8Jmkc5Pwqcxq+EdCFyp6iniisZl0bFlKTqCMA3dTJ2vGFke8dBdShgvHHzjq YkQIZ2ZW9w1kn8fIlEndnib2qYBpqRrpnLZeNTqGC4rTdXG4et/ReKaIRR6Rd7JP/Ud8 dgHR8KiQW/7AWkeu5A5tR1agt8nxR2bGumnSWXeUW41FL81/lsNH7HmWTQK3C10xNvhN 4LSnim2W/fW9fnsYmJtjtc7NMkX19H6hoqgtZ/N8x4CyPc8pcFYUPsUpOmUg+rGMmVlS ixbvD1IKaNVnwLLiYg0kqh34Nowmp/xy+DDpuTp5qz+faBmnTDukctU4IAny/uEqzMCC i2Wg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.135.99 with SMTP id pr3mr16742925lbb.23.1374687482383; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.199.38 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:38:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <15652.1374686892@ccs.covici.com> References: <1374476626.10089.0@numa-i.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> <51EE181D.5080505@gentoo.org> <15652.1374686892@ccs.covici.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:38:02 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch? From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 0f032033-31bc-4281-a1a4-5835559a5e3b X-Archives-Hash: 824a894dab86e0727b8673829ab722db On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:28 PM, wrote: > Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Andr=C3=A1s Cs=C3=A1nyi wrote: >> > On 23 July 2013 08:54, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> >> On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> This would be a lot less of an issue if someone just wrote a logind >> >>>> ebuild (wink wink) that provides consolekit like it was originally >> >>>> intended. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> not possible, logind since systemd >=3D 205 requires systemd and won= 't >> >>> work on openrc, upstart, and such >> >>> as in, the idea of using logind outside of systemd is a dead end >> >>> >> >>> so keeping ConsoleKit in portage for long as it works for long as we >> >>> need openrc for Linux based systems >> >>> and when it no longer works, the contingency plan is to ship vendor >> >>> based polkit files that possibly either restore 'plugdev' group or >> >>> provide similar groups to ArchLinux like 'network', 'storage', 'powe= r' >> >>> to split up the old 'plugdev' >> >> >> >> >> >> Wouldn't it be better to switch to systemd instead? >> > >> > Is there a migration guide? According to google there is no any. (or I >> > haven't spend enough time to search) >> >> You have the wiki: >> >> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd >> >> I believe it covers the most important aspects of the migration. Also, >> it is so much easier now; we even have a stable version on systemd in >> the tree. > > Couldn't emerge systemd its blocked by udev -- did a google search, but > found some very confusing posts to do with static-libs. systemd *is* udev; they are the same package. Uninstall the Gentoo packaging of udev (which basically strips systemd), install systemd, and it includes the official udev. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico