From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C8B1381F3 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 02:49:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6012FE0FBD; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 02:48:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f53.google.com (mail-la0-f53.google.com [209.85.215.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21E0DE0EF8 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 02:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f53.google.com with SMTP id el20so2317494lab.12 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 19:48:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=s/tSdIodzYjZdRwe2g0hQQlI7qMMBYIVBmZxEd+zCko=; b=YwlA//2CwpO7tqJcWEe61sbsvwY4oWTQV89QqvDmGrGNmAIuIqf7rQNqeJYROLo2/I kTmF5T0ifcMtKoY0i+so5NbRNDfo4bmchSjrapnFYrpYm15FKBKfwTaTlAcaqfbn036Q Ww7JRMSsD/aDSeulgPE6xSrB/1+eca+NqLBllkMWnv40cR3b/YHKs35OLyBZ73CoSLD7 xPg8VVjtNOlvVe5hUYbb86Iq+EnUcPzMAYGO5UDXm00wUJ4dnhkOAQpVbncv8V7TaKXp e+Ygs10nk8h9NotPD0g9sFpSlDRlaxOA0eX/WWWoJasjOzAfrz5x1yJnMbq8P39dVFo9 5D4w== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.167.3 with SMTP id zk3mr819671lbb.23.1378435726248; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 19:48:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.96.2 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 19:48:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <52292DA3.10101@gmail.com> References: <87ioye7pae.fsf@nyu.edu> <52292DA3.10101@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 21:48:46 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: must I mask gnome-3.8 until I am running systemd From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 085d9268-dcef-4587-aff4-5a4f7356690b X-Archives-Hash: a6585d5939b940e9f641686320fc72b9 On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:19 PM, walt wrote: > On 09/05/2013 05:43 PM, gottlieb@nyu.edu wrote: >> [I will be going to systemd since it is aparently required for >> gnome-3.8. I first want to try systemd on a test system so am building >> that one up.] >> >> On my main system (currently running openrc) I have masked all of >> gnome-3.8. I wonder if this was an error and I can remove the >> mask. Is it the case that >> >> 1. Running openrc instead of systemd means you must mask gnome-3.8 >> >> or >> >> 2. It is ok to emerge gnome-3.8 without a mask but some pieces will >> stay at 3.6? >> >> In other words can I eliminate my file >> /etc/portage/package.mask/gnome-3.8 >> with all the 3.8 builds? > > Well, Canek is the systemd guru in this group, but I have been able > to boot my ~amd64 test machine successfully using *either* openrc or > systemd. > > This was a pleasant surprise to me because Canek posted not long ago > that openrc is now incompatible with systemd. I'm pretty sure I never said such thing. Both sys-apps/systemd and sys-apps/openrc satisfy virtual/service-manager, so if you installed systemd, OpenRC was depcleaned some days ago, but since bug 373219[1] hasn't been closed, they added OpenRC into the @system set, so now it's not even depcleaned. You can put -*sys-apps/openrc in /etc/portage/profile/package to solve that. No incompatibility, and I never said that. > Canek, please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm a bit lost in the > details of the gnome3/systemd update at the moment. I believe you can install OpenRC and systemd in parallel without problems. GNOME 3 will pull systemd when installed, but that doesn't mean you will need to uninstall OpenRC. However, several GNOME packages (including gdm, if I'm not mistaken) will fail if not running with systemd as PID=3D1. I don't know how well it works OpenRC parallel installed with systemd, I haven't used it in years. Regards. [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D373219 --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico